Re: The demise of SR.

"Gerald L. O'Barr" <globarr@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Subject: Re: The demise of SR.

Jeckyl" <n...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Gerald L. O'Barr" <globarr...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
. . .

O'Barr wrote:
. . . . Once you
have the correct math, then you do not need to
consider the cause or reason why you have the math
in order to get the answers that the correct math
can provide. But to understand why and how the
math works, to understand what is physically
occurring so that the math is correct, then that
is when you have to have the absolute reference
frame.

Jeckyl" <n...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
No .. you don't need an absolute reference frame ..
SR gets along just fine without one.

O'Barr comments:
Yes, Jeckyl, to do the math, SR is fine.

Of course it is ..
And most
SR experts are willing to live with just the math
answers that SR provides.

That's what it is supposed to do.

But there really are a lot
of people who would also like to physically
understand what is going on. SR cannot tell anyone
what is really happening in order for us to get what
we get.

Minkowski explains it nicely, without introducing ether and abosolute frame
and mysterious inexplicalbe contractions of space and slowing of clocks.
Jeckyl" <n...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
That you have trouble understanding SR without an
absolute reference frame is simply an indication of
your own shortcomings .. not osf SR.

O'Barr comments:
Well, of course you are free to make your own
assessments here. I did get a minor in math.

Bully for you.

And
although I am sure that there are math problems in SR
that I cannot solve, I do not find my abilities
lacking in those areas where I have needed an answer.

Yet your blatant misunderstanding (or deliberate and deceitful
misrepresentation) of SR says otherwise

O'Barr wrote:
... SR is the correct math for
our free space reality, and the SR experts have
this much correct. But LET gives us the correct
physics for our free space reality. This much the
SR experts have it wrong.

Jeckyl" <n...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
How do you know? Its simply your opinion.

O'Barr comments:
I am sorry, Jeckyl, it is not my opinion.

Yes it it

The
information I have prevents me from saying anything
different.

Not my fault if you cannot see any other way for the information to be
interpretted. That's your problem.

Physical contraction and time dilation in LET have
been experimentally verified.

Absolute nonsense. The length contraction and time dilation of SR have been
... the physical shrinking and slowing of clocks of LET has not been
verified. We cannot detect it in order to know if it happens or not.

There is nothing that says LET is the 'correct' physics of reality.



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