Re: Twin paradox revisited ll

"bill" <cosmosco@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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On Jul 21, 10:03 am, "Jeckyl" <no...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
"bill" <cosmo...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message

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What is the difference between your statements 'one twin will have
aged more than the other' and 'physically ages at a faster rate'?

You don't know? Think about it.

If I *knew* what *he* thought about what the difference is I wouldn't
have *asked* him.

If you contracted some disease that made you age at a faster rate, then
in a
few years you'd have aged into an old man. You'd have only experience
those
few years.

The fact is that I would have experienced the *same* number of elapsed
years as everybody else.

If you wer ethe traveller .. no .. you woulnd't

My body would be deteriorating at a rapid
rate but my *age* is still determined on a normal basis.

No .. its not

From my point of view a year still lasts for 365.25 days the same as
anybody else's year.
Compare that to someone going on a one week holiday, when they come back
they are one week older. But if they go away for two weeks, when they
come
back they are two weeks older. They have aged more (because it is a
longer
time).

From both points of view, theirs and mine, they are week older when
they return from the first trip *but so am I*. From both points of
view they are two weeks older when they return after their second trip
*but so am I*.

But that's the difference you see .. for the traveller is only been one
week. for the at-home twin it has been two.

You really just don't get what is being said do you

In the twins paradox, the travelling twin ages less because less time has
elapsed for him. That means the stay-at-home twin has aged more than the
travelling twin.

No! The traveling twin ages less because his body's physical rate of
deterioration has been reduced *not* because 'less time has elapsed
for him'.

You are completely mistaken. He ages less because LESS TIME ELAPSED. It
has nothing to do with aging rates. The same thing happens for clocks

You wrote '"physically ages at a faster rate" is a meaningless
phrase'. I am of the opinion that 'ages the most' is just as
meaningless.
Then you're wrong. Both have meaning ..

The words '"physically ages at a faster rate" is a meaningless phrase'
were *not* mine but were a *quotation* from that person's posting!

You said they were both meaningless.

but it is the second phrase 'ages
the most' that describes what is going on.
In other words, you support the concept that the twin physically 'ages
the most' describes reality rather than, as special theory shows, it
is the traveler who physically ages the least?

He ages the least because the LESS TIME HAS ELAPSED FOR HIM. There is no
change to rate of aging.


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