Re: what makes electrons fly and not staying still?

On Jul 29, 3:25 pm, deejey <7g56f4...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Jul 29, 9:07 pm, "Neil Bates" <neil_del...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:



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news:1185731279.161276.36130@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Jul 29, 7:37 pm, Randy Poe <poespam-t...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Jul 29, 1:07 pm, jaydee <7g56f4...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

why are electrons flying around nuclei and
they are not staying still?

They aren't. Electrons are not in little orbits. That
model was thrown out a century ago.

- Randy

and... what else

are they flying or not?

So much trouble is caused by the application of the excluded middle to
questions that aren't about elements of classical sets ... A simple answer
is, the electrons are "flying" in the sense that they have momentum relative
to the nucleus, so they "aren't standing still." However, they aren't
following classical orbits either. The electrons are attracted by the
positive nucleus, which gives them the work needed to pick up kinetic energy
of motion, and they couldn't just sit nearby because of that attraction.
But, quantum mechanics means that they become (or become part of, if others
there already) a "cloud" like wave which is the uncertainty of their
location/s. So it's sort of like a solar system, and sort of not.

Tyrannogenius
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you too say nothen i can take back to my people

are they flying or not, i am not asking for theories or
interpretations, but embirical observation shows

Empirical observation shows what?

- Randy

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