Re: Errors being made by SR experts.




"PD" <TheDraperFamily@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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On Aug 4, 1:58 pm, "Gerald L. O'Barr" <glob...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Subject: Re: Errors being made by SR experts.

PD <TheDraperFam...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Gerald L. O'Barr" <globarr...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Randy Poe <poespam-t...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Gerald L. O'Barr <globarr...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Errors being made by SR experts.

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O'Barr wrote:
This moving photon is a real physical object, and
as a real physical object, it can only be moving
at some real rate of motion.
PD <TheDraperFam...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
That is also incorrect. There is NO SUCH THING as a
"real rate of motion". I don't know where you
picked up the mistaken assumption that a real
object must have a unique "real" rate of motion. It
is simply a mistaken assumption that you have to
abandon as being without experimental support.

O'Barr comments:
Are you serious? You know, when you make a joke,
you are supposed to use a little smilely at the end
of the statement. I do not see one! Did you forget
to put one in? :)

PD, for your information, SR does not prevent
anyone from using the English language, or from
assuming anything that is obvious.

Except when it's not obvious. It is not obvious that any object has a
"real" velocity that is separable from any measurement. If you think
it is obvious, then please explain how you would detect that "real"
velocity or even establish its existence.

Which line in
Einstein theory is it said and proved that we no
longer have real objects, with real velocities, with
real mass, with real positions? I do not remember
such a line.

In fact, it says that what is real is what's *measured*.

Wrong! In fact, it says that what's measured is *apparent*. - Einstein 1905.

Harald


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