Re: The Value of TWLS Is Distance Dependent

On Sep 29, 9:34 am, "kenseto" <kens...@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
"PD" <TheDraperFam...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message

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On Sep 29, 8:21 am, kenseto <kens...@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Sep 28, 10:26 am, PD <TheDraperFam...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Sep 28, 8:55 am, kenseto <kens...@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Sep 27, 5:11 pm, PD <TheDraperFam...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Sep 25, 8:44 am, kenseto <kens...@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

That's unscientific. You also cannot say *how much*
different the two results will be.

How can you give quantitative prediction without knowing the
state of
absolute motion of the distant clock??????

If you don't have any way of determining the absolute motion of a
distant clock in terms of other parameters that you *already know*
before you do the experiment, then you do not have a predictive
theory. A predictive theory says, "Because you already know This
number and That number, then the theory predicts you will see the
result X" where X is a number. You have it the other way around.
you
say, "Do the experiment, and it will tell you X." That is not a
theory
of any predictive power.

Hey idiot you can predict absolute motion with equations 15 if you
know the parameters: Delta(T_A1) and D_50.

But you have to do the experiment to *measure* Delata(T_A1) and D_50,
don't you? Compare this with the predictions in Einstein's paper where
there was NO ADDITIONAL MEASUREMENT NEEDED to make the prediction. The
only measurement that was required was to check whether the predicted
number was right.

Hey idiot I don't see any numerical predictions in Einstein's 1905
paper.

Of course you don't. You don't see any formulas that involve
parameters that are already known from other measurements and don't
require a new experiment?

Ah so you do need other already know parameters from other
measurements....do you think these known parameters were not measured
experimentally??
Predicting absolute motion requires a new sets of parameters so you must
measure these parameters experimentally. After that you can make
predictions.


That's what sets apart what you've written from real science. Real
theories can make definite, but new, predictions based on experimental
parameters that are ALREADY KNOWN. Your theory doesn't make any
predictions. You say that before your theory can make the first
*quantitative* prediction, a new measurement must be done, and then
and only then can can it make a prediction.

Your theory is incapable of making any quantitative prediction RIGHT
NOW. You need an experiment before you can make a single prediction.

A theory that cannot make a prediction from PRESENTLY AVAILABLE
parameters is useless.

PD

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