Re: Sagnac Fully Supports the BaTh.

On Sep 30, 5:13 am, HW@....(Dr. Henri Wilson) wrote:
On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 02:09:23 -0700, Jerry <Cephalobus_alie...@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

On Sep 30, 12:57 am, HW@....(Dr. Henri Wilson) wrote:
On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 21:24:59 -0700, Jerry <Cephalobus_alie...@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

Dear Quacker Henri,

The light has NO MEMORY. Turn the light source off.
Turn the light source on again.

In this scenario, the light will effectively have ALWAYS
been traveling at c+/-v, and the apparatus will effectively
have ALWAYS been turning at v. There will have been no
acceleration, yet the fringes will still be displaced.

Has the sudden realisation that sagnac fully supports BaTh
sapped your brain of whatever energy it had?
The light only moves at c towards the first mirror when
the apparatus is not rotating. Otherwise it moves at
c+v.root2 in the nonrotating frame (plus a very
small second order term). It retains that speed throughout
the whole trip. The length of all legs of either ray is
the same...but as you can see from my exaggerated diagram,
the blue path is longer than the green one. Path length is
proportional to rotation speed.

If acceleration is occuring, the light leaving the source
will have a different speed from that which arrives after
traveling around the loop....small but
exactly what is expected and measured.

...and if no acceleration is occurring?

Is that the most intelligent question you can ask?
What the hell do you think happens?
There is no change in path length and therefore no fringe
movement....which is what happens...

That is an error that even ANDROCLES wouldn't make.

You can turn off and turn on the light source in a Sagnac
apparatus while the apparatus is still working, and the
fringe shift is the same. The measured fringe shift is not
dependent on the history of the apparatus, only the current
state of rotation.

A Sagnac apparatus has no memory.

How about Michelson-Gale? The Earth was ALWAYS rotating
at constant angular velocity throughout the course of the
experiment.

Naturally it returned a null result...pure ballistic stuff
also..

MICHELSON-GALE RETURNED A POSITIVE RESULT!!!!
MICHELSON-GALE RETURNED A POSITIVE RESULT!!!!
MICHELSON-GALE RETURNED A POSITIVE RESULT!!!!
MICHELSON-GALE RETURNED A POSITIVE RESULT!!!!
MICHELSON-GALE RETURNED A POSITIVE RESULT!!!!
MICHELSON-GALE RETURNED A POSITIVE RESULT!!!!

No it didn't. A well known fact...

....and where do you find support for that assertion?

Read the original paper:
http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1925ApJ....61..140M

Read educated commentary on the paper:
http://www.mathpages.com/rr/s2-07/2-07.htm

Jerry
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