Re: Lorentz's own Law would **END** Einstein's RELATIVITY

On Oct 9, 10:24 am, Igor <thoov...@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Oct 9, 7:48 am, "gu...@xxxxxxxxxxx" <gu...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:





On Oct 8, 1:47 pm, Igor <thoov...@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Oct 8, 5:46 am, "gu...@xxxxxxxxxxx" <gu...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Oct 4, 1:25 pm, Igor <thoov...@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Oct 4, 9:40 am, "gu...@xxxxxxxxxxx" <gu...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

If magnetism occurs even at very slow velocities then it is the END of
Einstein's RELATIVITY and Galilean Relativity.

The jokes on you. Magnetism cannot even exist in Galilean relativity.-

NOTE AAA:
E= 1/2 mv^2 is an accurate observation for slow velocities, Lorentz
factor not needed.
F= qv X B is accurate also for some velocities since it corresponds
with observation.
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Some hope distance change due to electric force will include distance
change due to magnetic force = incorrect; both equations can be
isolated.

Using very slow velocity, say v = 100 km/hr.

After "t" time interval, moving frame observer will calculate distance
change due to electric repulsion force and rest frame observer will
calculate distance change due to electric repulsion force. TIME
DILATION between frames is included in the measurements (no length
contraction because distance is perpendicular to velocity).

But after a trillion years F = q(0) X B = 0 thus zero distance change
due to magnetic force in moving frame observation, where as
substantial distance change due to magnetic attraction in rest frame
observation where F= qV X B still holds true for slow velocities. (SEE
NOTE AAA above)

Nobody is saying that it doesn't exist for slow velocities.

Well then that nobody is stupid, because that nobody says it is true
for slow velocities yet that nobody CANNOT COMPUTE IN HIS BRAINS WHY
it DOES NOT COME TRUE in observation for SLOW VELOCITIES.

Let nobody "clearly" explain why (CASE #1) observation does not match
with equation at SLOW VELOCITIES, where as (CASE #2) E=1/2mv^2 does
match with observation at slow velocities.

USING this same nobody's answer which was snipped then CASE#2 should
ALSO not match with observation. Does nobody wish the truth or to deny
the truth by giving another run-around explanation to the difference
between case#1 & case#2.

I just hope you don't drive the same way you think and post

In brief, the equation should at least be valid for small velocities
(as is with 1/2mv^2) where as it is not.
Even at a slow velocity, the Moving frame observer will see no
distance change DUE to the magnetic force even after a million years,
where as the Rest frame observer according to the same equation will
notice a LARGE distance change after a million years.

And time dilation cannot prove a factor because it only affects the
rate of change where as the net change remains zero at any time
interval for the moving observer.
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You have problems with reference frames as you claimed to Tom Roberts
that E must equal zero at some reference frame where as he told
you.................no. If you do the same to the above then your
conclusion will also be false.





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