Re: A simple lightspeed experiment by single GPS horizon skimming.

On Oct 30, 10:51 pm, Eric Gisse <jowr.pi.nos...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 13:06:44 -0700, "LeoV...@xxxxxxxxx"





<LeoV...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Oct 17, 8:50 pm, Tom Roberts <tjroberts...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
LeoV...@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
I came to the (anti-relativistic) conclusion, that the Earth's orbital
speed, ca. 30 km/sec, should be incorporated in the GPS signal speed.

30 km/s is ~0.001*c. If a variation of that magnitude applied to the
propagation of signals from GPS satellites, but the receiver didn't
include it, it would induce errors on the order of
0.001*distance-to-satellite into the residuals in the receiver. As the
closest GPS satellite is about 20,000 km away from any receiver on
earth, this implies errors on the order of 20 km (or more). The
errorbars on position would be of that magnitude. They aren't. Your
"conclusion" is wrong.

This estimate is at local noon for a satellite near the horizon
to the east, and opposite in sign for one near the horizon to
the west. But the effect should go as cos(theta), where theta
is the angle from the eastern horizon, so at noontime it is
HUGE over most of the sky except near the zenith; at 6am and 6pm
is is much smaller for position but ENORMOUS for altitude --
such variations are not observed.

Tom Roberts

Thanks Tom for your serious approach: however:

There seems to be two different shaped LASOF ( local anti-symmetrical
oscillating vacuum frame) lightspeed extinction envelopes, for A:
Earth bound light sources and for B: Satellite- or space based light
sources.

That, amamzingly, has only been noticed by you.

Based on Radar reflection data of Venus and Mercury done by I.I
Shapiro, I concluded, that for Earth bound light sources, the LASOF
extinction envelope around the Earth, seems to be globular with a
diameter of 70 million km. see:
http://bigbang-entanglement.blogspot.com/2006/02/gravity-dependent-li...

Congratulations, you have discovered Shapiro delay. It is observed to
be exactly as predicted by general relativity.



Based on sparse Formosat- Champ- Topex satellite data in combination
with the small anomalies measured by D.Miller ( 1926) and Y.Galaev, I
suggest, that for space based light sources, the LASOF envelope seems
to be ellipsoidal (or cigar shaped), with the major axis coinciding to
the Earth-Satellite axis of the same length ( 70 MILLION KM) and an
unknown minor axis.

Oh yes, another crazy ass theory based upon discredited experiments. I
can't wait for Cahill's name to come up, too.



Future satellite-GPS distance reading variations should give
information about the minor axis of the cigar shaped LASOF envelope.
http://bigbang-entanglement.blogspot.com/2006/03/how-small-anomalies-...

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