Re: Pioneer anomaly



On Jan 19, 6:48 am, Albertito <albertito1...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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Dear resident fuckhead,
Yes, I have an answer for you. Firstly, Galileo and Ulysses, are not
equipped with accurate transponders for suitable doppler and ranging.

Nice, you prove you have no idea what you are talking about in the
first salvo.

The acceleration is derived from the velocity profile of the craft,
and the velocity profile is found from the doppler effect. The actual
work is done by the tracking stations - so long as the craft is
transmitting enough to get a decent signal at Earth, the doppler
effect is usable.

As for ranging...that's irrelevant no matter how you cut it.

I see, the Doppler effect is usable. So, tell me what equations
for that Doppler effect they use, and I'll tell you those equations
have embedded relativistic corrections. Remove those relativistic
corrections from the velocity profiles, and consider a higher locally
speed of light other than c for the sources. You will have an
absolutely
pure newtonian motion. Of course, that can't be done under GR, that's
new physics!.

Let's see the calculation.

BTW, if you think the relativistic Doppler effect is wrong, it'd help
if you had some actual evidence or at least a calculation supporting
your assertion.


Do you know what that's mean?. They did not yield reliable data,
whereas
Pioneer 10/11 probes did. Conclusively, new physics, Pioneer 10/11
probes,
are now travelling through a region of rarified vacuum, escaping from
solar system,
and the locally speed of light in that rarified vacuum is higher than
c!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!,

The Voyager probes did not see the Pioneer anomaly. They traveled, and
are traveling, through the same "rarrified vacuum". Why don't you
think the Voyager crafts see the Pioneer anomaly?

The answer is obvious, too. Voyager crafts see the anomaly, but we
can hardly see they're are seeing it.

If they, in your words, see the anomaly...so would we. The Pioneer
anomaly is an /acceleration/ that remained constant over the entire
path as far as the analysis can see.

Do you have an actual reason, or are you blowing smoke? I know the
conventional explanation, but since you seem to think you know more
about the subject than myself or actual physicists, so I want to hear
yours.


Which brings me to one of my previous questions...why aren't natural
bodies exhibiting the Pioneer anomaly? Given your ....unique...
explanation, everything out there should be feeling a small sunward
acceleration. Why aren't they?

resident fuckhead!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Pioneer probes are where they have to, and moving according to
newtonian laws,
but the electromagnetic signals you measured from them are fooling
you,
they are tricky.

You will have to do a little better than "they are tricky".
Let's see your calculations that show how a body's orbit is affected
[or not] by the local speed of light.

According to your exquisite well-known skills, my calculations are all
crap.
Are you sure you want that crap? :-)

If it actually exists, yes.
.


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