Re: Mr. Kennaugh -The Aether is not a terrible idea.

In sci.physics.relativity, HW@....(Dr. Henri Wilson)
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On Fri, 1 Feb 2008 22:42:24 -0800, The Ghost In The Machine
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| SR isn't applicable in the gravitational field of the Earth.

Or anywhere else, and certainly not in Sagnac.

It certainly seems to predict the observed result. Mind you,
the only thing that is of significance from SR in Sagnac is
the constant local speed of light.


It predicts *a* result. I've not seen any actual raw data
available, though I'd frankly have to dig for it anyway.

Since the result is routinely utilized in ring laser
gyroscopes, the result is presumably well enough
characterized to, among other things, implement ring
laser gyroscopes. ;-)

Also, since Newtonian theory predicts no result,
Newtonian theory is out the window.

Ghost, you have agreed that wavelength is frame independent according to BaTh.

That is correct.

Both SR and BaTh agree about the path length differences in a rotating sagnac
ring.

That is not correct. nBat shows no path length difference
in the rotating frame. SR isn't quite applicable (it's
a non-inertial reference frame) but the path length
difference is on the order of sqrt(1-v/c)/sqrt(1+v/c)
versus sqrt(1+v/c)/sqrt(1-v/c) for various reasons.

I can't speak for BaTh, of course.

It should therefore be obvious even to YOU that the paths of a rotating sagnac
ring contain different numbers of wavelengths.

And it turns out it does.


In any event, the error in the Earth's space-time field



Henri Wilson. ASTC,BSc,DSc(T)

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