Re: Mr. Kennaugh -The Aether is not a terrible idea.


"Paul B. Andersen" <paul.b.andersen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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| Jeckyl skrev:
| > "Paul B. Andersen" <paul.b.andersen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
| > news:47A3C76F.60905@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
| >> Jeckyl skrev:
| >>> "Paul B. Andersen" <paul.b.andersen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
| >>> news:47A077AB.4050507@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
| >>>> Jeckyl wrote:
| >>>>> "Dr. Henri Wilson" <HW@....> wrote in message
| >>>>> news:bdivp39mai7bm11ao2tejukttqh01bafdm@xxxxxxxxxx
| >>>>>> The OO sees the OC gaining 52us per day on the GC. The GO sees the
OC
| >>>>>> gaining
| >>>>>> only 38us per day.
| >>>>> Assuming you have the right figures, not that I really care, that's
| >>>>> pretty much it .. that's how relativity works
| >>>> Oooops.
| >>>> You didn't read properly what you agreed to now, did you? :-)
| >>> Indeed .. he has somewhat corrupted what I had said earlier.
| >>>
| >>>> What the clocks measure are invariants, independent of who
| >>>> is observing them, and where the observer is.
| >>>> There is no way the GO and OO can disagree about what
| >>>> any of the clocks measure.
| >>> But they can disagree about the rate of ticking .. which is what I had
| >>> told Dr Half Wit.
| >> Yes, they can disagree on the _instant_ rate.
| >
| > Yes .. that is what I was saying .. that the raio of clock rates would
not
| > be a simple reciprocal
| >
| >> But not on the average rate.
| >> It is the average rate we are calculating and measuring.
| >
| > It was acutally the instantaneous rate I was talking about. Henri then
| > extrapolated that to a per-orbit, or per-day, or per year, or whatever,
| > average. And then asking what would difference would show when the
clock
| > reunite .. which would be quite tricky to work out without, especially
not
| > knowing how long it takes for the mto reunite, andwhether the reuniting
is
| > due to the satellite clock coming down, or the ground clock going into
orbit
|
| Don't let us care about what Henri is saying.
| He understands nothing.
|
| But I think you have a few misconceptions, and as opposed to Henri,
| you seem to be willing and able to learn.

Which you are not.

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