Re: Discarding Relativity: the twin paradox and Schrodinger's cat

On Feb 26, 3:19 pm, Albertito <albertito1...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On 26 feb, 19:53, "Sue..." <suzysewns...@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:





On Feb 26, 10:41 am, Albertito <albertito1...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On 26 feb, 14:44, "Androcles" <Headmas...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

"Albertito" <albertito1...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message

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| I'm going to prove that when the travelling twin B returns
| close to twin A at rest, he is younger than A, and A is
| younger than B, too. It is saying the twin paradox and
| Schrodinger's cat are actually the same phenomenon!.
|
| Special Relativty is just a naive theory trying to describe a
| quantum phenomenon known as quantum superposition.
| Quantum kinematics is the correct framework for accounting
| for the so-called relativistic motions.
|
| The fact that moving B's clock would run slower than A's
| clock at rest, is a typical case of quantum superposition,
| because there is a symmetry telling us that, in proper B's
| frame, it is moving A's clock that runs slower. For systems
| which interact continuously with their environments, quantum
| decoherence resolves the superposition of states providing
| a mechanism for wave function collapses to take place.
|
Where's the proof?

The proof is as follows:
Consider two clocks, A and B, synchronized at rest,
Now, keep them isolated from environment, say in two
sealed boxes, where we can't observe them running.
Now, move one box in inertial motion wrt the other, at
speed  v>0.

Unless you describe how masses move in the
clock mechanism your experiment breaks with
reality here.

http://funphysics.jpl.nasa.gov/technical/lcap/race.html

Sue...

According to SR, A clock is now running
faster than B clock, in proper A's frame, but B clock is
also running faster than A clock in proper B's frame.
If both clocks have remained isolated, preserved from
any eventual perturbation. then when you approach
both boxes to be at rest close together, there wouldn't
be a twin paradox, but a Schrodinger's cat paradox.
A clock would show a time t_a,  and B clock a time
t_b, such that t_a< t_b and t_b< t_a, but t_a < >  t_b.
A clock marks two different times simultaneously, and
B clock, too.
Isn't that phenomenon a quantum superposition of states?.
When you open one of those sealed boxes, a quantum
decoherence is produced, so you can observe one of
those clocks shows a unique time, and instantaneously
the time on the other clock is fixed as unique too

Dear Sue:
You are right. How masses move in the clock
mechanism is very important for that experiment.
But, there is something called "entangled clocks"
that NASA is currently researching about

http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2004/23jan_entangled.xml

I don't find the word *inertia* in that reference so it
contributes nothing to better describe how masses would
move in the the clocks of your experiment.

Try this:

<<
-the invariance of physical systems with respect
to spatial translation (in other words, that the
laws of physics do not vary with locations in space)
gives the law of conservation of linear momentum;

-invariance with respect to rotation gives the
law of conservation of angular momentum;

-invariance with respect to time translation
gives the well known law of conservation of energy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noether's_theorem

Sue...



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