Re: What is Proper Time?
- From: The Ghost In The Machine <ewill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 07:35:21 -0800
In sci.physics.relativity, HW@....(Dr. Henri Wilson)
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on Thu, 06 Mar 2008 08:57:12 GMT
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On Thu, 06 Mar 2008 06:30:22 GMT, "Androcles" <Headmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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| In sci.physics.relativity, HW@....(Dr. Henri Wilson)
| <HW@>
| wrote
| on Tue, 04 Mar 2008 19:51:35 GMT
| <hq8rs31j1frdhuksnoq1pfqjtieaqg47n7@xxxxxxx>:
| > On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 05:21:11 -0800, The Ghost In The Machine
| > <ewill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
| >
| >>In sci.physics.relativity, Artful
| >><artful@xxxxxxxxxx>
| >> wrote
| >
| >>>> No, it is relatively simple to acheive this. ...just use my
'instantaneous
| >>>> universe' concept....(an infinite array of pre-synched clocks)
| >>>
| >>> They will only remain be synchronized in the frame of reference where
they
| >>> are all at rest.
| >>>
| >>
| >>If one assumes an array of presynchronized clocks in
| >>accordance with a preferential frame, then, in this frame
| >>(or a frame immobile thereto), one can pick an arbitrary
| >>point as the origin, and then work with circles (or
| >>intervals) of increasing radii, leading to a series of
| >>pulses (L, -L/c) (where (x,t) is an event) from clock L
| >>(which is conveniently L units distant, for an L > 0).
| >
| > The clocks are in absolute synch in ALL frames, Ghost.
|
| Certainly they are, in BaTH. I'm in SR.
SR - Stupid Relativity.
Point out the experiment that showed 'the "time" required by
light to travel from A to B equals the "time" it requires to travel
from B to A' , crank.
The MMX, for one. The fact that ALL TWLS experiments produce the same answer
for c is another.
MMX proves nothing in this context. At best, one has two hockey pucks
going on two paths with the same length, in the standard setup.
t S-M-A-M-D
t' S-M-B-M-D
0-1-2-3-4
We can tell that t12 = t'12 and t23 = t'23 but that tells us absolutely
nothing about the relationship of t12 and t23, or t'12 and t'23.
If one assumes absolute time, the fact that TWLS experiments show the
same speed indicates that there's no "headwind". The path there
is S-M-S, and the S-M path goes at speed c-v (velocity v-c) with the
M-S path c+v if one has a headwind with speed v. The total transit time
is therefore
t_h = d/(c-v) + d/(c+v)
(or (-d)/(v-c) + d/(v+c) )
= (d(c+v) + d(c-v))/(c^2-v^2) = 2dc/(c^2-v^2) = 2(d/c)/(1-v^2/c^2)
However, TWLS shows nothing regarding nBaT (and presumably
BaTh); the frictionless hockey puck encounters only the
reflecting mirror and is always moving at speed c.
I do not know if a TWLS has been attempted with a moving source.
I would assume so but don't know offhand.
For christ's sake will you give up this aether nonsense. You are supposed to
be a ballistician, remember
But SR is an aether theory; Androcles has "proven" that. ;-)
Henri Wilson. ASTC,BSc,DSc(T)
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Einstein's Relativity is easy to understand if one has the IQ of a parrot and a gullibility index >0.95.
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