Re: What is Proper Time?

In sci.physics.relativity, HW@....(Dr. Henri Wilson)
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on Thu, 06 Mar 2008 21:12:31 GMT
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On Thu, 6 Mar 2008 07:35:21 -0800, The Ghost In The Machine
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In sci.physics.relativity, HW@....(Dr. Henri Wilson)
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on Thu, 06 Mar 2008 08:57:12 GMT

| >
| > The clocks are in absolute synch in ALL frames, Ghost.
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| Certainly they are, in BaTH. I'm in SR.

SR - Stupid Relativity.
Point out the experiment that showed 'the "time" required by
light to travel from A to B equals the "time" it requires to travel
from B to A' , crank.

The MMX, for one. The fact that ALL TWLS experiments produce the same answer
for c is another.

MMX proves nothing in this context. At best, one has two hockey pucks
going on two paths with the same length, in the standard setup.

t S-M-A-M-D
t' S-M-B-M-D
0-1-2-3-4

We can tell that t12 = t'12 and t23 = t'23 but that tells us absolutely
nothing about the relationship of t12 and t23, or t'12 and t'23.

If one assumes absolute time, the fact that TWLS experiments show the
same speed indicates that there's no "headwind". The path there
is S-M-S, and the S-M path goes at speed c-v (velocity v-c) with the
M-S path c+v if one has a headwind with speed v. The total transit time
is therefore

t_h = d/(c-v) + d/(c+v)

(or (-d)/(v-c) + d/(v+c) )

= (d(c+v) + d(c-v))/(c^2-v^2) = 2dc/(c^2-v^2) = 2(d/c)/(1-v^2/c^2)

That's what aether theory states.
There is no aether, therefore it's wrong. Why do you even bother with the
maths?

You will, of course, have alternate maths for BaTH, I trust?


However, TWLS shows nothing regarding nBaT (and presumably
BaTh); the frictionless hockey puck encounters only the
reflecting mirror and is always moving at speed c.

Light normally moves at c wrt it source. ...and all components of the
interferometer.

Only if the source is not moving with respect thereto, in BaTH.

Einstein's silly theory says virtually the same thing. He knew it was correct
because Ritz influenced him.

I do not know if a TWLS has been attempted with a moving source.
I would assume so but don't know offhand.

It hasn't.....not in any believable experiment anyway.

For christ's sake will you give up this aether nonsense. You are supposed to
be a ballistician, remember

But SR is an aether theory; Androcles has "proven" that. ;-)

Well he should know, he's a great believer in aether theories.

No no...he doesn't believe in SR. If anything, he vehemently disputes
it. He's more in line with BaTH.



Henri Wilson. ASTC,BSc,DSc(T)
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Einstein's Relativity is easy to understand if one has the IQ of a parrot and a gullibility index >0.95.

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