Re: Had enough of the newsgroup scum
- From: "Androcles" <Headmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 17:45:50 GMT
"Randy Poe" <poespam-trap@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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| On Mar 24, 10:33 am, "Androcles" <Headmas...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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| > | On Mar 24, 10:15 am, "Androcles" <Headmas...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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news:fab383e5-59d5-4d4f-a759-16b88e919e12@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx| > | > | On Mar 22, 11:04 pm, HW@....(Dr. Henri Wilson) wrote:
| > | > | > If you are an astrophysicist you should wake up to the fact that
all
| > | > starlight
| > | > | > DOES NOT move towards little planet Earth at precisely c.
| > | > |
| > | > | Can you point to an experimental measurement of light
| > | > | moving at a speed different from c?
| > | >
| > | > Of course. Blue shift/red shift is often observed.
| > |
| > | Can you point to an experimental measurement of light
| > | moving at a speed different from c?
| >
| > Of course. Blue shift/red shift is often observed.
| >
| > You know there is no aether and Ockham's Razor applies, I trust?
| > |
| > | You do know what "speed" means, and how it
| > | is measured, right?
| >
| > Sure, distance/time, or the same thing, waveLENGTH * frequency,
| > where frequency is 1/time. You do know f = 1/t, don't you?
|
| Sure, that would be an acceptable substitute.
|
| But most blue/red shift measurements give a value
| of wavelength only.
Oh, well, you can't find speed without both distance and time, Poe.
You do know what "speed" means, and how it is measured, right?
| If you want to calculate wavelength*frequency empirically,
| you're going to need both a wavelength and a frequency.
Of course.
Fortunately the frequency is known from the "stationary system"
measurement, t = d/c (or f = c/wavelength), from which c' = d'/t.
Hence any change in wavelength has a directly proportional change in
speed.
(t cannot alter, that is known to lead to paradox, the favourite boring
subject in sci.physics.relativity).
| Can you cite a paper where these numbers were both
| measured and multiplied to obtain a value different
| from c?
|
Paper, Poe?
I merely answered your question "Can you point to an experimental
measurement
of light moving at a speed different from c?", which I've done.
I do have this which might help you understand real physics:
"the phenomena of electrodynamics as well as of mechanics possess no
properties
corresponding to the idea of absolute rest." - Albert Einstein
"the same laws of electrodynamics and optics will be valid for all frames of
reference
for which the equations of mechanics hold good." - Albert Einstein.
Unfortunately it isn't an experimental measurement of anything, just an ex
recto
statement by Einstein.
I would not expect you to understand what it means, but I'll tell you
anyway.
It means speed = distance/time for Newtonian mechanics and for light.
Can you cite a paper where these numbers were both measured and multiplied
to obtain a value exactly equal to 2AB/(t'A-tA) (another ex recto statement
by
Einstein) ?
.
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