Re: time dilation

On Apr 13, 3:31 pm, Eric Gisse <jowr...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Apr 13, 5:09 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@xxxxxxxx> wrote:





On Apr 12, 11:55 pm, Eric Gisse <jowr...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Apr 12, 9:27 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Apr 12, 5:00 pm, Eric Gisse <jowr...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Apr 12, 7:43 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Apr 11, 10:05�pm, Eric Gisse <jowr...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Apr 11, 8:39 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
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Right. �Scientists in their big cars. �Galileo had to use horse drawn
transportation. �So did Isaac Newton.
Robert B. Winn

But that's the difference in the 20th century physics. Big cars. And
huge salaries.- Hide quoted text -

� What are scientists who have it made going to do, right?

Define "have it made".

Big cars. �Huge salaries.
Robert B. Winn

....and what do you think scientists get paid?

Money taken from public revenues.
Robert B. Winn

So you think we should stop paying scientists all together? Or do you
have a different point?- Hide quoted text -

Scientists have for the most part been paid from public revenues clear
back to the time of scientists like Galileo.  The more Americans try
to make their government a copy of European governments, the more
scientists will be dependent on public revenues.  I have no personal
need to pay scientists, but what happens to public revenues is
controlled by Congress.  Maybe you would like to send your
recommendations to your Representative in Congress.
Robert B. Winn

You have no personal need? So should we stop doing basic research?- Hide quoted text -

Scientists are part of European socialism.  The more socialistic the
United States gets, the more scientists there will be.  Scientists
have a different outlook on life than people who work for a living.

I think it is cute that you make it sound like you believe scientists
don't work.

For instance, you can look at the lumber industry, which does not
exist in the United States any more.  People who worked in logging and
sawmills thought of themselves as good people.  Scientists like Ted
Kaczinski believed that they needed to be stopped.  The scientists

I love how you lump that whackjob in with the rest of us to validate
your hatred of science.

prevailed.  Now what we see are huge forest fires every year because
scientists do not know anything about preventing or stopping forest
fires.  Basic research is not going to solve this problem.  As long as
scientists are in charge of putting out forest fires, they will try to
do it with airplanes.  Then they will say that there are worse forest
fires because of global warming.  Forest fires fit the agenda of
socialism.
Robert B. Winn

Policy decisions and their failures are not science's fault, but nice
try anyway.

So once again: do you want basic research to stop? Before you answer
that question, do you like having all those non-invasive [CT, MRI, X-
ray, PET...] and moderately invasive [radioactive tracer] imaging
techniques for when you get sick?- Hide quoted text -

Well, those modern medical machines do not apply much to me. The best
medical treatment I could expect in any case would be a V.A hospital.
My last experience with that was when I went to the Phoenix, Arizona,
VA hospital in 1992 concerning a hernia and was sent to urology. The
only people there were a couple of very young doctors. They talked to
me a little and gave me a rescription for some radioactive barium I
was supposed to take and come back the next day for tests on my
prostate. I went to the VA pharmacy and filled the prescriptions I
was given, kept the antibiotics and threw the radioactive barium in
the trash.
A few years later I read in the Readers Digest what was going on.
These very young doctors are called residents and are not allowed to
practice medicine without a supervisor being present. What was
happening in VA hospitals was that Doctors being paid $80,000.00 per
year to be supervisors were taking the money and only showing up at
the hospital about once a week for a few minutes. They found out that
these young residents were scheduling prostate removals of healthy
patients in order to "practice" medicine.
I think that reseachers who are given public revenues to do
research are very likely to be dishonest. There are notable
exceptions like Galileo and Newton. However, even scientists like
these have their bad moments. Galileo lied at his trial before the
church court, and Newton was always trying to find answers through
alchemy.
Robert B. Winn
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