Re: Alien message proves Einstein's relativity is wrong
- From: PD <TheDraperFamily@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 19:29:20 -0700 (PDT)
On Apr 13, 5:21 am, Albertito <albertito1...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Apr 12, 5:40 am, The Ghost In The Machine
<ew...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
In sci.physics.relativity, Albertito
<albertito1...@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote
on Fri, 11 Apr 2008 10:40:31 -0700 (PDT)
<f47adf68-da55-4da7-a33c-2a042d3c1...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
Double WOW-WOW! extraterrestrial signal detected
by SETI:
"6EQUJ5 8ASFGH UFOE3A 6FSRTY
6FFGTW 5SAZXC FGH2E1".
Translation:
"6EQUJ5" =
"The speed of light varies from a maximal value
c_u = R_h/t_p, where R_h is Hubble radius and
t_p is Planck time, and a minimal value
c_0 = l_pH_0, where l_p is Planck length and H_0 is
Hubble constant".
[rest snipped]
Well, absent a lot more context of which I'm not aware, your conclusions
verge on the ridiculous from a simple matter of information content.
Briefly, I could claim that the single letter "Q" encodes thus:
"Q" = "the proof of the four-color map theorem, Einstein's Theory of
General Relativity *and* Quantum Mechanics, and the enumeration of the
first billion digits of pi that doesn't contain the sequence
'0000000000'".
Of course any extraterristrials listening in would be
laughing what passes for their rear ends off, were
I silly enough to seriously pass this off as truth.
BTW:
hubble radius = 11-15 billion lightyears, or 1.42 * 10^26 m
Planck Time = undefined, but might be about 3.34 * 10^-44 s
if one divides Planck Length (10^-35 m) by lightspeed.
Hubble constant = 50 to 80 km/s per megaparsec; this can be
expressed as (50000 m/s/3.083*10^16 m) = 1.622 * 10^-12 Hz,
to 2.595 * 10^-12 Hz.
So lessee. That gives c_u = (1.42 * 10^26 m / 3.34 * 10^-44 s)
= 4.251 * 10^69 m/s, and c_0 = 2.5255 * 10^-47 m/s, give or
take an order of magnitude.
You might want to fine that down a bit from your
interstellar friends up there; we're a little more precise
down here on Earth. Prior to the definition of 1983 of
lightspeed being exactly 299792458 m/s, the last known
measured value according tohttp://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/Relativity/SpeedOfLight/measure...
was 2997924457.4 +/- 1.000 m/s.
I'll give you a smidge of credit for getting the units right
in your expressions, but that's the easy part.
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Establishing by definition that the speed of light
in vacuum is a universal constant of exactly
299792458 m/s is the silliest statement perpetrated
ever in science.
Well, first it was checked before defining it to be so with actual
measurements. To great accuracy.
This enormous mistake is comparable
to establishing by definition that temperature of any
body is a universal constant of exactly 1000 K.
Except that, unlike the speed of light, it's quite easy to measure
temperatures of bodies that are not 1000 K.
You
relativists are closed-minded to the fact that speed of
light is a mesurable physical magnitude.
Why would you say that? They've measured it.
Have you ever
measured the local speed of light in a region of outer
space?
Yup.
The speed of light depends on the gravitational
potential. You could find a gravitational potential V_1 for
a spatial region that seems to be nearly flat, but you also
could find a potential V_2 for another region nearly flat too,
and see that the potential difference |v_1 - V_2| is not nearly
zero. Therefore, for the former region you might find a local
speed of light meaningfully higher than that for the latter or
vice versa.
But there's no evidence of that. It might help if you knew where
people had looked already before you suggest that people should look
someplace that's already been looked at.
PD
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