Re: time dilation

On Apr 15, 12:20 pm, PD <TheDraperFam...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Apr 15, 12:23 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Apr 15, 9:11�am, "harry" <harald.vanlintelButNotT...@xxxxxxx>
wrote:

Harald,
    The position of scientists is that, taking the train car as a
laboratory, experiments run in this laboratory S' must have the same
results as experiments run outside the laboratory in S.

No, they do NOT say this. You are subject to a gross misapprehension.
The position of scientists is that the laws of physics are identical
in S and S'. This does NOT mean that the results must be the same.

PD

Well, all right , PD, but what is the distinction made with regard to
this experiment?
Scientists are saying that in S, a clock will drop in a time of
t=1. A clock in S' drops in a time of t'=1, but as seen from S, a
clock does not hit the floor until after the S clock hits, and a clock
in S' will show less time than a clock in S.
So we send the clock being dropped in S' backwards with a force
such that it apears to drop straight down in S. What do the Lorentz
equations show with regard to the time it will take that clock to hit
the floor in S'?
Does it now appear to hit the floor in S' at the same time as a
clock in S?
That is what an observer in S will see. The answer I get from the
Lorentz equations is that t' will still equal t gamma. The clock in
S' is still in the air and registers less time when the S clock hits
even though it is falling right beside it. You scientists have a
mistake in your logic.
You say, It is only a tiny mistake, and we want S' to remain a
laboratory where we can sit and drink coffee. Well, OK, go ahead and
drink your coffee. But wouldn't it be cheaper for us to just provide
scientists with places in frame of reference S to drink coffee? Then
we could use the money that scientists get for research to pay for
political party corruption, and the national debt would not increase
as fast. Well, it is something to think about.
Robert B. Winn
.

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