Re: Principle of equivalence
- From: Bryan Olson <fakeaddress@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 03:43:27 GMT
rbwinn wrote:
Bryan Olson wrote:rbwinn wrote:Show the math, Bryan. The S' clock hits at x=0.
t'=(t-vx/c^2)gamma = t gamma
In order to agree with Galileo's result, t' would have to equal t. If
you can get t' to equal t, let's see you do it.
Ah, a challenge. That clock, as you said "will be sent opposite the
direction of the motion of the train with a speed relative to S'
that is equal to the speed of the train." Thus in S, the velocity of
that clock is v=0.
gamma = c / (c**2 - v**2)**(1/2)
gamma = c / (c**2 - 0)**(1/2)
gamma = c / (c**2)**(1/2)
gamma = c / c
gamma = 1
t'=(t- v x/c^2) * gamma
t'=(t- 0 x/c^2) * 1
t'= t - 0
t'= t
You challenged me to show "t' would have to equal t". Challenge met.
Well, you did exactly what I said you would do. You flipped frames of
reference and said the clock was in S.
You claim I "said the clock was in S"? I try not to say things
quite that vacuous (though I'll admit the showing t'=t was
pretty trivial). All objects are in all frames. One of us says
silly thinks like "the cesium clock in S," but it ain't me.
I did no flipping of frames of reference. Robert, you defined S
as the rest frame.
Figure it from S'.
If you can get it to work from S', I will have to say you have done
something.
In what sense is it not working from S'?
[...]
Well, as I said, if you are correcting papers, just show the correctDone.
math as you see it.
I have to give you an incomplete on this one.
Gotta at least pass the course before you can do the grading.
--
--Bryan
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