Re: CODATA's Value for Hydrogen's Rydberg Constant R_H


"Steve Bell" <sb635@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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OK this is my last post on this.

You can be a "good" scientist and find R_H on your own. Take the
experimental values for the transitions given in the CODATA then
choose your favorite series Balmer, Lyman etc. extract out an R_H. Of
course the actual physical data doesn't exactly fit to either of
these, because of QED, and is only an approximation but I did this for
a couple of points and got to within 10 wavenumbers of the QED
theoretical.

You are free to believe what you want and I look forward to seeing you
in Stockholm.

cheers,
kp


I believe any transition frequencies given by CODATA have been adjusted
to
agree with QED. I do not believe CODATA is consciously doing anything
dishonest or "sneaky," quite the contrary, they think they should do
this
because of their belief that QED is physically correct. Like I said, I
knew
you guys would simply not accept this. It is obvious to me what has
happened. These "empirically-only-based" experiments are simply
restating
the original work of Balmer and Rydberg. For something as "simple" as
hydrogen, we do not need complicated equations to find an accurate,
unbiased
quantification of its ground state binding energy. Fortunately, the only
needed equations are quite simple, only a least squares linear straight
line
fit is needed, and given good, accurate unbiased spectroscopic data,
when
can find the slope of the line (which is R_H) with little standard
error.

You don't have to contribute anymore, kp. Because the work of Balmer and
Rydberg was so "fundamental," I should be able to find many examples of
this
simple, parsimonious way to accurately quantify hydrogen's true R_H and
ground state binding energy, which is basically what all of these
college
experiments are doing. I hope to post several examples, but Herman and
Wolf's recounting is so straight forward and clear, it's beautiful,
isn't
it.

Now the big problem lay before us: Why does the spectroscopic data not
show
any relativistic effects? This is a "null result" that imo,
fundamentally
needs to be explained.

Thanks for your help, but in closing this post I must say this. You have
asked me to provide top quality references, which this last one is, and
if
you actually did not go to this famous text book and look at the pages I
referenced, sir, I have every right to say you can go straight to hell.

Steve Bell


Here is another link that shows the non-relativistic R_H:

http://courses.washington.edu/phys331/HD_mass_theory.pdf

And, I'm sure, there is more are to come. All one has to do is google
hydrogen spectroscopic data balmer rydberg.

Steve Bell



Here is Wikipedia' site. You can click on its links to get to a quoted
non-relativistic R_H:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balmer_series

I intend to flood the intractable QM devotees on this list with so many
reference, you all can go straight to hell if you do not accept this.

Steve Bell


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