Re: Time is much more than that

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On May 13, 1:55 pm, "Paul B. Andersen"
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PCB wrote:
On May 11, 6:32 pm, The Ghost In The Machine
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On May 11, 5:07 pm, "Dirk Van de moortel" <dirkvandemoor...@ThankS-NO-
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On May 11, 3:25 pm, "Dirk Van de moortel" <dirkvandemoor...@ThankS-NO-
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Can matter be the frozen state of present time?
Can EM radiation, and any radiation, be the past state of time?
Because EM radiation is indeed always coming from past into our
present, and
always reflect the matter from a past present..
Is this possible?
Please tell me what a state of time existence the future might be?
We define time as what we read on clocks.
"We" reads a counter. Empirically, an integer. Is that time?
Maybe this can help you rephrase the questions.
I dont know what to rephrase.
We have matter and EM, while time and space are mental construction.
Now if we take empirically what EM is, then it is the past tense of
matter
So
1. Time at present tense.is matter
2. Time at past tense is EM
Then while space is tight time related, and both are mental
construction, all
"We" have is mental construction.
It looks clearly like a simulation to me.
We are and live in a simulator.
Who did it?
Maybe it can even help you forget the questions.
Dirk Vdm
Surely I can, but for now its okay.
This simplification seems well posed from my corners.
Can you contradict?
Can you use your brain?
http://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Units/second.html
Dirk Vdm
Thanks for the honest answer.
I quote only the first sentence from your link, which is wrong
"The unit of time, the second, was defined originally as the fraction
1/86 400 of the mean solar day"
I understand your inability to see the problem. "mean solar day" says
nothing about time.
Is not "1 day" a unit of time? I fail to see your concern
here...?? In any event, one could stipulate that the Earth
is the world's oldest clock; it rotates around its axis and
revolves around Sol. These are clearly periodic motions.
What Sol, you mean Sun?
But everything rotates everywhere, we cant have so many time integers,
all right at same time.
Is an integer time?
Depends on what it represents. Most likely the integer
represents the number of pulses detected at a certain
point; these pulses come from an oscillator that is hooked
up to a phase locked loop pushing a certain frequency beam
at a fountain of Cs-133 atoms. Depending on the response
of the atoms, the PLL adjusts its frequency.
Wait wait wait just a minute. I didnt knew, thanks, therefore I asked
Dirk, to learn something from him.
I already spot a problem with that PLL.
PLL are never 100% accurate, you need a crystal with a very low ppm
frequency tolerance. Hereby that clock is flawed by construction.
The crystal oscillator isn't the reference, it is the VCO.
(Voltage Controlled Oscillator). It is the Cs atom that is the reference.

Dear you

You must be terrible stupid. VCOs are crap compared to anything else.

You control the oscillations by a voltage, then pretend they are
accurate.
You must be fucking retarded.

Read and learn. VCOs use semiconductors, which are nonlinear. Even a
fart in
proximity disturb that oscillator.

The best you can get is a good shaped homogen crystal.

The frequency from the VCO in an atomic clock is a billion
times more precise than the frequency from a crystal oscillator.

Return back immediately that phd diploma,if you have any

You have no idea of what we are talking about, have you? :-)

In a phase locked loop (PLL), there is a frequency reference,
and a voltage controlled oscillator (VCO). The phase of
the reference is compared to the phase of the VCO, and
the voltage to the latter is controlled (negative feedback loop)
to keep the phase difference constant.

In a Cs fountain atomic clock, there is a PLL where the frequency
associated with the hyperfine transition of the Cs atom in ground
state is the _reference_.
The VCO is a quartz crystal oscillator.
Since the reference is so extremely precise, the VCO only
have to be able to vary the frequency very little, which
can be achieved with a voltage controlled capacitor (varicap)
as one of the load capacitors of the crystal.


Did you get it? No?
So you are right.
I must be terrible stupid, wasting my time on imbeciles.


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Paul

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