Re: Finally, Special Relativity Is Proven False



On Jul 2, 2:51 pm, "Greg Neill" <gneill...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
"Strich 9" <Strich.9.2b16...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message

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SPECIAL RELATIVITY FINAL QUESTION (prior to it being discarded):

Which proposition is false?

PROP 1: Muons formed in the upper atmosphere have a rest life of
~2.26us.

PROP 2: Traveling at speed ~c, they cover 700m as measured in the muon
frame prior to disintegration after ~2.26us,

PROP 3: Which corresponds to 7000m in the Earth frame due to Lorentz
contraction, enabling them to reach the lower atmosphere.

PROP 4: In 2.26us in the earth frame, any particle with speed ~c,
(such as a photon, or a muon in this case) can only travel 700m as
measured in the Earth frame, and not reach the lower atmosphere.

PROP 5: Since the 2.26us in the muon REST frame is EXACTLY EQUAL
(barring the trivial effects of a gravitational field) to the 2.26us
in the earth REST frame, then we have a contradiction, since 700m is
not equal to 7000m.

Equal in numerical value, but they are not the same duration
(they do not correspond to the same spacetime interval).
You're frame jumping to make unwarranted comparisons.

I was curious why BOTH Greg Neil and PD interchange the
terms "duration" and "space time interval".

Does the practice have any more to recommend it that
these fictonal works?

<< Edgar Allan Poe stated in his essay on cosmology
titled Eureka (1848) that "Space and duration are
one." This is the first known published work suggesting
this connection between space and time, Poe reaching
this conclusion after approximately 90 pages philosophical
reasoning. In 1895, in his novel, The Time Machine,
H.G. Wells wrote, “There is no difference between
time and any of the three dimensions of space except
that our consciousness moves along it.” >>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spacetime


Sue...



That is, the events associated with the beginning and end of
the two 2.26us periods do not correspond to the same spacetime
events. When the Earth clock times out at 2.6us, the muon
clock will still have a ways to go before it reaches 2.26us.
Plenty of time to traverse the remainder of the 7000m (which
is just 700m in its own rest frame).



Conclusion: If all the above is true, then -Special Relativity is
*ERRONEOUS*-.

It's not all true. You're frame jumping without making the
appropriate Lorentz transform adjustments before comparing
values. Your conclusion is specious, if not dishonest.

.



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