Re: Who is who?

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They inferred a speed by... measuring the
difference in time... and dividing that into *a
known distance*.

I continue without seeing any TWLS. To
divide a time difference by a known distance
is the more normal way to measure an OWLS.

There is no possibility of measuring OWLS
with a known distance, when that distance is
"tuned" to yield a TWLS result. And that is
how such "meter sticks" are formed, be it a
PtIr transfer standard, or the orbit of Jupiter.
"A remote Einstein synchronized clock"... can
only return c. "What we know about
Jupiter's orbit" is such a circumstance.

Jupiter's orbit was well-known a long before
1905 Relativity. Your assertion about it being
related with "A remote Einstein synchronized
clock" have no sense at all.

The procedure of allocating parameters to Jupiter's position, and
its moons positions, *is* clock synchronization, whether
Einstein's great grandfathers were still gleams in his
great-great grandfathers' eyes.

I used the term because you know what it means. I used the term
because it is exactly applicable. I used the term, because it is
well known that it can only return a TWLS result. That you can
ignore the payload, does not mean there isn't one.

As to drifting from the topic, you challenge that it is possible
to measure OWLS (the heart of the OPs question). I contend that
Nature thinks we are fools to consider what cannot be measured.

David A. Smith


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