Re: Are *observed* SR effects real?

On Jul 7, 8:40 am, Shubee <e.Shu...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Jul 7, 8:06 am, PD <TheDraperFam...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Jul 5, 8:18 am, Shubee <e.Shu...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
So then insisting that length be frame-independent
in some underlying reality is to either
a) say that the underlying reality is
unmeasurable,

That would be my preference.

And this is scientifically valueless.

Understanding all the ways that reality might be is not scientifically
valueless.

It is if that reality is not confirmable by measurement. That becomes
metaphysics, not physics.
Metaphysics is not valueless, it's just *scientifically* valueless.

As Niels Bohr once said to Einstein, "Einstein, stop
telling God what to do."

And in response, Einstein proposed the experiment that proved him
wrong about quantum mechanics.
.

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