Re: Heisenberg vs. Einstein


"xxein" <xxein1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:b028f0c2-49d0-4970-a0e3-2d9bdfd4c562@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
On Sep 17, 3:22 am, "Androcles" <Headmas...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
"RichD" <r_delaney2...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message

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> At the center of a black hole, we supposedly find
> a singularity, a point of infinite density. Does that not
> violate the position-momentum uncertainty
> principle, shouldn't we expect some 'fuzzyness'
> in the location?

> --
> Rich

The mathematical model is flawed.
Density, as it is understood, is the number of hadrons (protons and
neutrons,
the nuclei of atoms) in a unit volume. In a gas, the molecules are flying
around
and need space to move. In a liquid, the molecules as jostling each other
but
still need space to move. In a solid, the molecules are packed tightly and
fit
together to form crystals, but they still have some small movement
(expansion).
Under extreme pressure, we start to lose the space between atomic nuclei.
For example, the carbon lattice can be cubic as with graphite or tetrahedral
as
with diamond.
http://leenelsonengineer.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!4BEE2C4E67C8A8B2!85...
The obvious limit to density is when there is no space left between hadrons
(the
supposed neutron star).
Whilst a crank will blindly halve the available volume or double the mass
within that volume, Nature doesn't allow that to happen.

xxein: You finally said something that is right. Congratulations.
================================================
Pity you can't!
Actually, you do have some slight sense but I can't make head nor tail
out of "an artefactual/superficially imposed yin-yang of sorts", that is
pure jabberwok. If you something to say then say it in plain English;
if you have nothing to say, shut up.

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