Re: transformation equations

On Sep 19, 4:40�am, PD <TheDraperFam...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Sep 18, 6:10�pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@xxxxxxxx> wrote:


You may need to purchase some transportation to get under the right
tree.

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There are no trees here in Arizona, PD. �A government fire fighter
started a fire several years ago that burned all the trees in the
state. �The United States Forest Service kept everyone, including
firefighters, back away from the fire until it ran out of trees to
burn. �But when the fire reached Show Low, Arizona, some former
loggers took matters into their own hands and took some heavy
equipment and made a fireline between the town and the fire, so the
fire stopped in that area when the fire reached the fireline. �This
was entirely unauthorized, and everyone feels guilty about the town of
Show Low being there today.

Every time I ask you about whether some group of workers should be
paid out of public funds, you bring up a criminal case out of that
group of workers. I'm not sure what your point is, Bobby. Is it your
point that if there is anyone in a class of workers that is a
criminal, then that whole class of workers should not be supported by
public funds? Do you think that if there is a teacher that hits a kid,
then this means that teachers should not be paid from taxes?

What is it that you are trying to teach? Certainly not science or
mathematics. You refuse to even discuss those subjects.

� � So let's talk about invariance of physical laws. �The claim of
scientists today is that electromagnetic waves, which are a form of
energy, change frames of reference, which Einstein said could be
represented by sets of Cartesian coordinates, by causing any frame of
reference which moves to be contracted in the direction of motion,
just so that the ideas that scientists have about invariance of the
laws of physics can remain unchanged.
� � On the other hand, a mathematician could insist that the Cartesian
coordinates remain unchanged, and physicists would have to do more
than just tell everyone else what to believe.

Ah, I suppose that gets down to it. Aside from the fact that
mathematicians are also supported by public funds, so I'm not sure why
you should want to believe anything that they say.

Well, I don't really want to, but they seem to have a point with
regard to this particular thing.

What more do you think physicists should have to do, than just tell
everyone else what to believe?

That would be up to physicists. Welfare recipients get money from the
government also. Right now I would say that welfare recipients are
being more successful at telling everyone else what to believe than
scientists are.

�We can see that is not
going to work because scientists all depend on the government for
their livlihood, so scientists are enforcing their model of reality.
I personally have to side with what mathematicians have said about the
Galilean transformation equations.

Why? They are also tax-supported. There was a fairly famous
mathematician whose fame was partly due to the fact that he sent bombs
in the mail and killed people.

Well, there you have it. Ted Kaczinski's thesis on border functions
became the most requested doctorate thesis in the history of
education. But Ted's success in the world of education and in
political leadership did not come without sacrifice. No one cared a
thing about his doctorate thesis until he was serving a life sentence
in federal prison. While Ted was mailing bombs to lumber industry
executives, I was working in the woods. My father worked in a
sawmill. Nobody back then was predicting that Ted would become a
success in life while we would become failures. Ted was just a
university professor.
But look how it is today. There is no lumber industry in the
United States. All boards come from Canada. Trees in the United
States exist to burn in increasingly large forest fires.
When I was working in the woods, loggers were good at putting out
forest fires. Whenever a fire would occur, the Forest Service would
go hire logging crews and their equipment and sawmill crews and local
residents to fight the fire. The fires would get put out.
Now only professional fire fighters fight forest fires, and they
burn entire states. First Florida burns, Then Arizona burns. Then
Georgia burns. Then northern California burns. Fifty years ago, all
of those fires would have been stopped. Today forest fires are being
fought by scientists instead of by loggers.
And Ted Kaczinski can sit in his cell and smile because he was
successful at accomplishing his goals in life. He helped put an end
to the lumber industry in the United States.

� � �So, as I see it, we are about where Faraday was when the eminent
scientists he worked for as a laboratory technician were trying to
figure out why a magnetic compass would point to a wire through which
an electrical current was running. �Faraday tried to tell them that
there had to be a magnetic field around the wire, and the scientists
all said that anyone knew that the electrical current had to remain
inside the wire. �The same scientists all later opposed Faraday's
admission into the Royal society of scientists, etc.
� � �So we can see that science has not changed much from that day to
this. �Scientists just have more information to be narrow minded
about.
� � �Anyway, I like my concept of light a lot better than the one that
scientists have.

Of course you do. Now the question is, by what metric do you determine
whether the concept you like is also the one that is right?

Well, I would have to say that since scientists will not discuss it,
it must be right. Faraday ran into the same situation with his
employer, Sir Humphrey Davy, and his fellow scientists. Faraday was
only a lab technician when he saw those scientists making a mistake.
Robert B. Winn


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