Re: Contraction has been abolished by Special Relativity

On Oct 7, 6:09 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Oct 7, 7:06 am, PD <TheDraperFam...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Oct 7, 8:59 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Oct 7, 6:31 am, PD <TheDraperFam...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Oct 7, 8:22 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Oct 7, 5:26 am, PD <TheDraperFam...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Oct 6, 9:46 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Oct 6, 6:24 am, PD <TheDraperFam...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Not at all. We've been discussing several topics, including
relativity, your habit of lying, and why you consider scientists not
worth public investment. We've also been talking about you going to
the library and looking up some experimental papers, an activity that
you seem to be fastidiously avoiding for some reason.

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I don't have time to do it. If you want to tell me something, go
ahead and tell me.

I've already told you, Robert, I have no interest in spoon-feeding you
and that it's important that you do a little legwork, though I'm happy
to point in the exact direction your legs should go, as I've been
there quite often myself. You have plenty time to post and no time to
do any legwork. This is a common excuse used by the lazy. I've known
lots of people who complain endlessly but are not interested in doing
anything to change their situation, as that would risk reducing the
number of things to complain about. These people are not worth much,
in my opinion. I wonder if you share the same opinion about people
like that.

You object a lot to the usage of profanity, but you seem to overlook
the sins of sloth and bearing false witness -- both of which are
deserving of special mention in the Bible.

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I posted these equations, PD.

x'=x-vt
y'=y
z'=z
t'=t

w = velocity of light
x=wt
x'=wn'

x'=x-vt
wn'=wt-vt
n'=t(1-v/w)

n' is the time it takes for a photon to travel a distance of x'
according to a cesium clock in S'.

If you can show how some experiment relates to these equations, I
might look it up.

I've already told you the relation. These experiments show that, when
you put in the *measured* values into Galilean relations on the left-
hand side and the right-hand side, the equality doesn't hold and so
the equations do not describe reality; whereas, if you put the
measured values into Lorentz relations on the left-hand side and the
right-hand side, the equality does hold and so the equations do
describe reality. This is what the experimental papers show, which is
entirely relevant.

You've said you have no interest in looking up those experimental
papers, and then you said you had no time to look up those
experimental papers, though you're happy to read those results if
someone will transcribe them here for you. And I've explained to you
why this spoon-feeding is a bad idea, even though you want it to
happen. I'm happy to point you to where you can do the reading
someplace else, but I'm not going to let you do all the reading here,
as that's a bad idea (as I've explained) and I don't like acting on
bad ideas.

PD

Well, I can already tell you what it is all about. It is about ether
theory.

No, and I'll repeat what I told you earlier. These are *experimental*
papers and have nothing to do with ether *theory*. You do know the
difference between theory and experiment, don't you?

So I'll tell you what. Since you think that someone should
visit this website

I wasn't suggesting visiting any website. In fact, I was suggesting
you removing your rear end from your chair and going to the library,
where the published collections of experimental results are kept. I
hope that isn't asking too much of someone that is prone to sloth and
bearing false witness.

You seem remarkably resistant to finding out what experiment says
about the Galilean transformation equations. Why is that?

No, I am not going to the library.

Why not? That's where the information is.

 If you cannot post the
information, then we will not discuss it.

Oh, I can, but I've already discussed why that's a bad idea.

So you have said that you do not want to discuss the Galilean
transformation equations.

No, I haven't said that at all.

 I do not want to discuss psychology,
socialist concepts of economics, etc.
But if you change your mind and decide to discuss what experiment says
about the Galilean transformation equations, let me know.

Oh, I've been explaining what experiment says about the Galilean
transformations. You say that you don't believe me.
This is why it's important for you to look it up yourself.
That way you wouldn't be telling me that you don't believe me.
You'd have to tell your own eyes that you don't believe them.

PD

Robert B. Winn

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