Re: twin paradox, but a symmetric one



On Nov 3, 5:08 pm, "Androcles" <Headmas...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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On Nov 3, 8:07 am, PD <TheDraperFam...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Nov 1, 12:48 am, "Spirit of Truth" <junehar...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

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On Oct 23, 10:54 pm, "Spirit of Truth" <junehar...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

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that math is correct but WRONG

Well, Androcles, at least you got that correct. You see, math
can well well be correct in itself but factors that should be in the
math
can be omitted. The math can be actually only applicable to
a science-fiction universe...which is the case with SR and GR.

NOW is a common NOW to all,

What makes you say that?

so lack of simultaneity is
obviously incorrect and SR and GR have been misleading people
since at least 1905.

Spirit of Truth

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BECAUSE lack of simultaneity causes absurd SR FACTS
like you see in the Andromeda Paradox in the link below:

http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Special_Relativity/Simultaneity%2C_time_...

Whether you consider them absurd or not is irrelevant, especially if
they are facts -- that is, they really happen in nature. If there is
something that really happens in nature, and it is astounding and
unbelievable to you, then the better approach is to re-examine what
you consider believable, rather than to reject facts.-

I beg to disagree. Time dilation and length contraction do not occur
in nature, period. It is not relevant whether it is believable or
not.

On the other hand, non-locality does occur in nature. Again it is not
relevant whether it is believable or not.

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Disagreeing with the lying *** Phuckwit Duck is something anyone
sane would do. Just plonk the moron, he's a total crank. Or have a
laugh as I did, but eventually it gets boring.

Draper:
I have to admit that I am demoralized at the moment.

I had hoped that we could fight ignorance with a proactive rather
than a reactive approach, but this is clearly the improper forum for
that. A quick survey of the length of threads initiated by or drifting
to nonsense compared to the length of threads based on sound thinking
reveals the true interest in the proposal.

While it would be a useful project to contribute to the FAQ, the
intent was to educate in the context of discussion, a virtual
"classroom" if you will. There's no point in contributing to a
reference that none of the "students" will read or attempt to learn
from. The intention was to focus on *exactly* what is wrong in
someone's thinking (which varies from person to person), set it
straight, and then make progress from there.

I had high hopes -- really -- that perhaps one misguided soul would
read something sensible and say, "Oh... Really?...Oh. I see I was
confused. OK, I get it now. Now what about...?" My head knew better,
my heart does not.

[sitting in the duck blind, waiting with a shotgun for a duck to
appear]
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I beg to agree :)
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Notice that "The intention was to focus on *exactly* what is wrong in
someone's thinking " (as long as the 'someone' isn't Phuckwit Duck).
Keep blasting his tail feathers if you want to, it has done no good in the
four or five years since the moron wrote that. He is the perfect example
of a troll, he has no ethics whatsoever. His sole intent is to argue himself
into a corner and keep taking a battering.


His mother must have done a real number on him. He is operating under
the delusion that he is smart, when all of us here have known he does
not even scratch average :)
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