Re: A guide for students of physics in the art of spin Part 2

On Nov 16, 10:49 am, John Kennaugh <J...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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On Nov 12, 12:02 pm, John Kennaugh <J...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Hi, John
I have really enjoyed your post !
I think too that there is a great deal of cleaning work
to be done in the matter of relativity theory versus reality!
 Today, after learning about the many properties of a
quantum vacuum, there should be a lot more voices questioning
the "non-existence" of aether or vacuum-matter.
The thing is that, as Max Von Laue noticed, a new view or a new
theory can not win the hearts and minds of its adversaries, it
just can over-live them.

I was told it was Planck who said that.
      "An important scientific innovation rarely makes its way
       by gradually winning over and converting its opponents…
       What does happen is that its opponents gradually die out,
       and that the growing generation is familiarized with the
      ideas from the beginning."  - Max Planck
Well, I have not the book with me, to make 100% sure
who said it !It may have been Max Planck's autobiography where I
have read it, but still referring to Max von Laue and his book on
the history of physics as I can recall. It was quite a time ago
I've read it, so I may be wrong regarding the person, yet I think
I'm not!

 Then,the best thing for guys like us is, not to fight with
mathe-fantasizers but, go to the facts and try to see how things
really are and of course ignore the "noise of beothiens".
Right now there are a lot more of facts known then a hundred years ago
, which could lead to
a breakthrough this time.

Unfortunately I do not share your optimism. You need two sides to a
debate and the stranglehold of orthodoxy means that there is only one.
If there is a debate!
Why debate now? It has passed over a hundred years of new
experiences and debates.
It would be time to reassess things, rethink the basics.
Many of us are feeling this way and some are even trying
to do it, more or less successfully.
I have seen rarely, if any, an honest debate or collective
effort
to get things straight.
I have taught physics for over 20 years. One thing that I noticed
was that we, people, think differently....due to so many factors.
I have seen only once or twice in this group somebody saying
'Oh, yes, you are right" meaning that he/she understood what
was said. In all other cases I just could see ...monologues!
From my part, I was encouraging you, as I was doing with my
students,
to pursue ,what I consider to be, a worhty goal!
I am pursuing a similar path, yet, I am quite positive, I have to
do it ...alone! Otherwise, I would need probably..at least 100 years
more
to get the slightest achievements.





I was just a student at a physics faculty when I had
noticed at least 2 strange things : a) MMX conclusion , the way it was
taught,
could not be observed in the laboratory frame, but only the aether-
frame
(frame jumping)
b) we attribute physical properties (such as dielectric permittivity
etc)
to  "empty space"
(Since then, new facts surfaced but, the thinking has not changed
much.
Why?
Again, people DO NOT CHANGE! New ideas require NEW PEOPLE!
Example, ALFVEN was ignored in America, his theories ridiculed
until measurements confirmed them and PAULI as an american authority
learning more
about Alfven's ideas said "Of course!")
By the way,
   "frame-jumping" appears even in well known physics courses
like the "Berkeley physics course" and seems to be a major issue
for most people.
Back to the subject, my belief is that,
surely won't take long until we will be able to show that
what we call "vacuum" is in fact no less matter than water and such.
In fact, if I recall well, Paul Dirac have considered the idea that
the electron may carry its field and kind of reinstated the "aether"
in this way. His theory was not working perfectly for a zero radius
electron, which is of no concern as the electron can not have a nil
diameter.
So, keep up the good work!
Cheers, LL

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Best regards,LL
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