Re: Einstein's Train Gedanken Re-visited

On Jun 11, 2:59 pm, "Sue..." <suzysewns...@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Jun 11, 10:53 am, G <gehan.ameresek...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:



On Jun 11, 11:35 am, Bruce Richmond <bsr3...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Jun 10, 7:58 am, "Sue..." <suzysewns...@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Jun 10, 7:45 am, Bruce Richmond <bsr3...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Jun 10, 1:16 am, "Sue..." <suzysewns...@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Jun 10, 1:07 am, Bruce Richmond <bsr3...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Jun 9, 11:23 pm, "Sue..." <suzysewns...@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Jun 9, 10:45 pm, Bruce Richmond <bsr3...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
[...]

And thank you again for stating the basis of
your "belief".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faith

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion

The track frame says the train is moving.

Talking tracks and talking snakes?

The observers in the track frame if you want to get picky.

You must be reading Paul Andersen's mathemagical
postings.

The train frame says the
train is stationary. You can tell which frame you are in by whether
the train is moving or not. Do you think that violates the relativity
principle?

You didn't answer the question. Do you think this example violates
the principle of relativity?

We have to have equal dielectric paths to test
for the principle of relativity.

The experiment here is to measure the velocity of the train. Track
observers measure it to be v while train observers measure it to be
zero. The two frames get different results. Do you think this
violates the principle of relativity? A simple yes or no will do.

A passenger will measure the track moving at V.
A person on the track will measure the train moving
at the same V. That is not a different result and
it is not a test of the principle of relativity.

That was not the question. The question was what do they measure the
velocity of the train to be? They do not get the same answer using
the two different coordinate systems. The track frame observers
measure the train to be traveling at v while the train frame observers
measure it to be traveling at 0. Do you think that violates the
principle of relativity?

You are babbling nonsense and drinking your own
Kool-Aid.

A passenger will measure the track moving at V.

The question was "What is the velocity of the train?"

The track frame observers

measure the train to be traveling at v while the train frame observers
measure it to be traveling at 0.

If an observer on the train measures the inertial
motion of the the train, he violates the principle
of relativity.

<< Einstein's relativity principle states that:

All inertial frames are totally equivalent
for the performance of all physical experiments.

In other words, it is impossible to perform a physical
experiment which differentiates in any fundamental sense
between different inertial frames. By definition, Newton's
laws of motion take the same form in all inertial frames.
Einstein generalized[1] this result in his special theory of
relativity by asserting that all laws of physics take the
same form in all inertial frames. >>http://farside.ph.utexas.edu/teaching/em/lectures/node108.html

Sue...



I agree

By the way, Einstein made mistakes

http://discovermagazine.com/2008/sep/01-einstein.s-23-biggest-mistakes

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