Re: Einstein's Train Gedanken Re-visited

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By the way, Einstein made mistakes

http://discovermagazine.com/2008/sep/01-einstein.s-23-biggest-mistakes

Yes .. Einstein was human and his theories changed and evolved. Big
deal.

Einstein was a plagiarist and a hoaxer.

Doesn't really matter even if he was. What matters is the SR and GR
models
that he helped develop

His theory is just a disguised version of LET.

Its LET with the need for any mysterious physical shrinkage of objects
and
distnaces, and slowing of processes with by their movement in an
undetectable ether with properties that are inconsistent with known
substances. SR does not require that

Sigh....of course the ether unique and has unique properties that no
known substance has.

If it existed. Which by the nature of the properties it would have to have,
we cannot show. How convenient :)

You are wrong....SR does require the special properties of the ether.

It requires no ether, nor does it say there cannot be one.. SR works quite
happily with corpuscular/balistic theories, or wave/ether based theories. SR
postulates that the speed of light is the same for observations in all
inertial (non accelerating) frames. It really doesn't give a hoot about how
the light gets from point A to point B .. as long as the speed is the same
for everyone.

Then why does physicists refused to measure the one-way speed of light
directly??



For example: An SR observer claims that all the clocks in the universe
moving wrt him are running slow and all the rod moving wrt him are
contracted.....these are the exclusive properties of an observer at
rest in the ether frame.

Not at all. In SR it is a property of every inertial (non accelerating)
frame.

That's the point: Every SR observer claims that he is in a state of
absolute rest and that's why he claims the unique properties of the
absolute rest frame. BTW that's why SR is incomplete.....No object in
the universe is in a state of absolute rest.

Ken Seto



In ether theories, like LET, it is the property of a unique frame. But SR is
not LET. You're obviously confused about these two theories.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Maybe you have an experiment in mind to measure the one way speed of
light directly?
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