Re: RELATIVITY AS INCONSISTENCY

Albertito wrote on Thu, 02 Jul 2009 05:24:36 -0700:

On Jul 2, 12:57 pm, "Juan R." González-Álvarez
<juanREM...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Whoever wrote on Thu, 02 Jul 2009 21:36:54 +1000:





"Juan R.González-Álvarez" <juanREM...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
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"Juan R." González-Álvarez wrote on Thu, 02 Jul 2009 11:11:58 +0000:

"Juan R." González-Álvarez wrote on Thu, 02 Jul 2009 11:00:22
+0000:

Pentcho Valev wrote on Thu, 02 Jul 2009 03:39:57 -0700:

http://labnews.co.uk/laboratory_article.php/4514/2/2/attack-on-
great-
pillar-of-physics
"Precisely because Einstein's theory is inconsistent, its
supporters have drawn on contradictory principles in a way that
greatly expanded their apparent ability to explain the universe.
Most crazes die out when it becomes obvious that they were
overblown. The amazing thing about Einstein's theory of
relativity is that it has kept going. It is built on
contradictions, but these very contradictions means that almost
anything 'proves' that it is right. It is a bit like a theory
where you say 1 + 1 = 2, but also that 1+ 1 = 3."

Pentcho Valev
pva...@xxxxxxxxx

From the news:

"Perhaps tellingly Dr Peter Hayes is senior lecturer in politics -
not physics. In his latest paper he argues that Albert Einstein's
theory of relativity - perhaps the most famous scientific theory
in history - should be viewed as an ideology, not as a science. He
argues that its impact on popular culture and science has been so
influential precisely because as a scientific theory it doesn't
actually make sense."

The important part of course is "senior lecturer in politics - not
physics".

The link to the 'paper' published in "Social Epistemology"

http://www.informaworld.com/smpp/
content~content=a909857880~db=all~order=page

The Abstract already reveals some of author misunderstandings:

"In the interwar period there was a significant school of thought
that
repudiated Einstein's theory of relativity on the grounds that it
contained elementary inconsistencies. Some of these critics held
extreme right-wing and anti-Semitic views, and this has tended to
discredit their technical objections to relativity as being
scientifically shallow. This paper investigates an alternative
possibility: that the critics were right and that the success of
Einstein's theory in overcoming them was due to its strengths as an
ideology rather than as a science. The clock paradox illustrates
how relativity theory does indeed contain inconsistencies that make
it scientifically problematic. These same inconsistencies, however,
make the theory ideologically powerful. The implications of this
argument are examined with respect to Thomas Kuhn and Karl Popper's
accounts of the philosophy of science."

Hayes adds the next nonsense:

"A famous flaw in Einstein's theory is the Clock Paradox. This
states
that if one clock travels in a spaceship, while the other stays on
earth, when the clock in the spaceship returns it will show that
less time has elapsed than the clock on earth. This prediction
violates Einstein's own ‘principle of relativity', which states
that if you are on the spaceship it should be the clock back on
earth that slows down. This is a criticism that science has never
been able to satisfactorily resolve."

Hayes is clearly an idiot. Not so much because he doesn't understand
the physics, but because he thinks he does and then publishes
nonsense for all to see. As Twain says "It is better to keep your
mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and
remove all doubt"

I did not know this guy before Pentcho cited. I have found him being
cited in several science news. He is not a physicist but a "senior
lecturer in politics". It is evident that he does not understand
neither relativity not scientific method.

Doing invalid statements about non-inertial clocks and then spreading
in news (paying for sure) a photo with him crossing out the special
relativity expression E=mc^2 for massive particles at rest says it all.

The bottom line seems to be that Haynes is against HLC for some reason.

Who is Haynes?

Typo: Hayes.

What's HLC?

Typo: LHC.


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http://www.canonicalscience.org/
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