Re: Aether Displacement

On Aug 9, 8:19 pm, mpc755 <mpc...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Aug 9, 4:32 pm, mpc755 <mpc...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:



On Aug 9, 11:03 am, mpc755 <mpc...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

In article <ab368e71-5940-41ab-9cca-8a6f062d02e7
@f10g2000vbf.googlegroups.com>, TheDraperFam...@xxxxxxxxx says...

On Aug 9, 6:52 am, mpc755 <mpc...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Aug 9, 7:33 am, funkenstein <luke.s...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Aug 6, 7:07 pm, mpc755 <mpc...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Aug 6, 12:48 pm,funkenstein<luke.s...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

This is where you may be missing something important.  We can define
an elapsed time consistently using the notion of seconds, tied to
electromagnetic frequency standards.  We can build clocks with such
standards.  If the clock runs slower, it really does have something to
do with time.  That is kind of at the heart of SR, that there is no
"absolute" time or space, we are stuck with physical clocks and meter
sticks, held together with electromagnetic forces, and they may change
depending on local space-time conditions.

We are stuck with physical clocks that are affected by their physical
environments.

Yes, that is relativity in a nutshell.  Thanks for an interesting
discussion.

That's why time does not actually change. The physical clock is just
running slower because of its physical environment.

Except that the clock is running at different rates *at the same time*
when viewed from different reference frames. So if it is the
environment that is doing it, how is it that the environment can
arrange to have it do that?

My guess for the GPS, the clocks oscillate slower because the aether is
less dense.

Same true when they flew atomic clocks around the U.S.

The following doesn't discuss time, but the image on page three shows
the motion of the earth through the aether.

"The Cosmic Background Radiation and the New Aether Drift"

http://muller.lbl.gov/COBE-early_history/SciAm.pdf

If you look at Figure one here:

http://www.orgonelab.org/MillerReich.htm

It looks like Miller was detecting the galaxies aether whirlpool.

From the caption along with Figure 1 here:

http://www.orgonelab.org/MillerReich.htm

"...or is the ether dynamic, similar to Reich's orgone, streaming
northward in a superimposing spiraling spinning-wave, and carrying the
Earth-Sun system with it?"

And then compare it to the image on Page 3 here:

http://muller.lbl.gov/COBE-early_history/SciAm.pdf

The answer is yes, the aether is dynamic and streaming northward in a
superimposing spiraling spinning-wave, carrying the Earth-Sun system
with it.

Check out the model made by miller half way down this page:

http://www.orgonelab.org/miller.htm

"A model constructed by Miller, displaying the axis of ether-drift for
the four seasonal epochs of the Earth moving around the Sun. The axis
of drift, in this model, appears to be roughly perpendicular to the
plane of the ecliptic."

Sentence above image of the model:

"Amazingly, the independent averages for the four epochs provided by
Miller (Feb.=-10° west of north, April=+40° east, Aug.=+10° east,
Sept.=+55° east) together yield a mean displacement 23.75° east of
north. This is very close to the Earth's axial tilt of 23.5°, and can
hardly be coincidental."
.

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