Re: The Emission Theory of Androcles

"Jonah Thomas" <jethomas5@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:20090913221209.468e1c67.jethomas5@xxxxxxxxxxxx
"Inertial" <relatively@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
"Jonah Thomas" <jethomas5@xxxxxxxxx> wrote
> "Androcles" <Headmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>> Go talk to the Inert troll and the senile old fool, you are dead
>> wood.*plonk*
>
> I'm getting there. Maybe you'd like to talk with me in a few months
> when I've made more progress.

Andcoles plonks everyone who he can't convince and can see through his

trickery, and once he has finished trying to play little his games
with them them and failing. Congratulations on making the grade. It
did take you a while, but you got there.

You don't understand.

Oh no .. I do. We've all had experience with him here :)

Androcles was trying to explain something that's
hard to explain, and I kept slipping back into the ways of thinking that
don't head where he wants, and he kept trying. And then just when it was
almost working and I almost saw where he was going, I started spending
most of my time trying to understand Wilson's Sagnac stuff, things that
Androcles knows is wrong anyway, something that he knows has no possible
payoff. And it's true that part of why I did that was that Androcles is
doing something complicated and hard to understand, while Wilson on
Sagnac is something that ought to be simple and easy. And indeed I did
find a simple easy way to look at it that looks correct to me, that
unfortunately doesn't match up to what Wilson says. I was doing
something easy instead of something hard, and it isn't inappropriate for
Androcles to be annoyed at me for it.

Glad to see you're trying ot understand and keeping yourself open to
the possibilities and not taking things on face value. Those who
understand physics best took similar approaches.

I'll go back and try to understand Androcles's idea when I'm ready, and
maybe he'll relent and help me with the hardest parts. Also by that time
I may have rediscovered part of it. I haven't seen through his trickery.
I think he might very likely be onto something that I don't understand
yet. I sort of see his metaphor of Sagnac as coriolis effect. You have
the two paths with different distances traveled. It makes a poetic kind
of sense and maybe at some time I'll see a more literal sense to it.

.

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