Re: Pioneer anomaly

jcgonsowski@xxxxxxxxx writes
>Charles Francis wrote:
>> Many thanks for this. As far as I can see there is no relation between
>> Segal's law and mine. He is working in a static universe in which
>> cosmological redshift is as the square of the distance. I am working in
>> an expanding one in which redshift goes as the square of the expansion
>> parameter. To first order this gives me the standard linear law, but
>> half the rate of expansion.
>
>Segal's model can fit with an expanding universe:
>
>Segal, in the General Conclusions section (pages 187-191) of his book
>Mathematical Cosmology and ExtraGalactic Astronomy (Academic 1976)
>says:
>"... In principle, there is no difficulty in combining the chronometric
>redshift theory with some degree of expansion in accordance with a
>closed Friedmann model. As long as the rate of expansion is kept
>sufficiently low ... the basic features of the Friedmann theory and its
>correlation with cosmology, apart from the redshift itself, would be
>retained. Such a mixed theory cannot be excluded on a purely
>statistical basis, and would permit conventional ideas concerning the
>evolution and age of galaxies to persist in the combined theory without
>essential change. ...

Its an odd thing....

People seem to be happy to discuss a discredited, if interesting,
proposal by segal but aren't interested in discussing a **different**
proposal by francis.

I am more than a bit surprised given that the paper has been posted
here, and the author is standing by ready and waiting to discuss it.

Now, I have quite reasonably been castigated in the past for speculating
when I had no mathematical expression of what I was talking about.

Here, someone with very reasonable technical qualifications makes a
proposal that offers a solution for:

1) MOND.
2) Galactic Age problems.
3) Probably dispenses with dark matter and dark energy (and thus their
arbitrary nature).

All of which have from time to time been flagged here as important
potential problems.

And yet nobody can raise themselves to a discussion.

The basis of the argument can be simply taken as phenomenological as
francis has pointed out. This squared expansion redshift term isn't
mathematically formidable and his working is easily checked. It seems
reasonable to me, and apparently (from the lack of response) reasonable
to others, so why no discussion?

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