Re: Superposed observers (was No new Einstein)

rof@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> Charles Francis <charles@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
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>>It is necessary, IMV, to do like Einstein, and think
>>really critically about how we measure things and the abstract
>>mathematical structures required to describe it. (if no one does that,
>>there will be no new Einstein)
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> Indeed; this is necessary. Unfortunately, it's not the kind of
> thing which is done very frequently.
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> R.
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Concerning critical thinking, I think that we have failed to address
some assumptions of triviality. For example, the most trivial first
order observation about an object is that it exists! The numerical value
of this existence would have to be time Dependant. This object residing
in point A for 5 minutes is moved to point B where it stays for 10
minutes; the object existed twice as much in B than in A. This is what
happen to a planet on a keplerian orbit around the sun. The time of
residence of the planet in various parts of the orbit is essentially
about where it exist more or less as seen from the rest of the universe.
This is a Machian type background dependence.

This approach comes from simple reasoning. First, the universe is not
the same in one place whether there is matter present or not. The
gravitation this matter produces is this signal saying all around that
the universe is not the same while it is there. Secondly, since its
existence is what changes the universe wherever it goes, we may argue
that it replace some element of the universe. The very existence of this
matter in one place limits or removes partially what normally happens
when it is not there. If one defines the universe as the set of all
places where something can exist, well, where there is matter this place
is already (partially) taken, so the universe is not exactly the same
there.

From there, one could say that what is removed by matter is the local
passage of time ( since this is exactly what it does ) which we
experience as gravitation.

This idea is not about contradicting anyone or any empirical descriptive
knowledge. But it has everything to do with understanding what is really
going on out there.

Critical thinking can only be invited by the sincere desire to
understand logically this spontaneous universe.

Marcel,

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Relevant Pages

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