Re: What is the history of relativity theory? (continuation of Poincare thread)
- From: "Juan R." <juanrgonzaleza@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 16:11:14 +0000 (UTC)
Javier Bezos wrote:
> Juan R. wrote:
>
> > I also said that Einstein used the same notation and some other
> > detailes of 1904 paper by Lorentz (which Einstein claimed to unread).
>
> Let's assume this is true. Do you have some evidence that no other
> paper
> at the time used the same notation and "some other details"? (Kauffman,
> Abraham, Bucherer, Larmor, previous papers by Lorentz himself, etc.).
> Have
> you read and compared all the papers (original or in facsimilar form)
> on
> the topic published at that time? In order to claim Einstein copied the
> notation from the 1904 paper you have to demonstrate it, since just
> comparing the papers can reveal simply they both used the same
> sources (particularly Abraham's).
I understand you. I have not read and compared all the papers. Of
course, i cannot prove 100% sure that Einstein copied directly to
Lorentz. I can just prove that:
1) Lorentz obtained before Einstein.
2) The same notation is used and i find this interesting and I can
state it.
3) There are at least two evidences that Einstein said not the true in
priority issues. Einstein said 'newer read Poincar=E9' and we know that
is not true. I already cited relevant reference on this. Einstein said
to Hilbert had submitted the correct field equations of GR a "week ago"
when is false like has been proven by a number of author. I already
cited here.
4) That Einstein often did not cited relevant literature in previous
works. E.g. does not cited Poincar=E9 when read, did not cited Hilbert
in his GR paper of 25 day and simply postulated the field equation
*without* proof, etc.
5) Einstein explicitely cites to Lorentz in a footnote.
You can obtain your own interpretation, conclusions, etc.
Moreover, If Einstein obtained that from Larmor or Abraham, etc, again
he did not cite to them in his 1905 paper and my initial claim is
transformed via the rule 'Lorentz' ---> 'Larmor or Abraham, etc'.
Juan R.
Center for CANONICAL |SCIENCE)
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