Re: Faster than light signalling via an EPR type mechanism

John Hudson wrote:

I believe I have a way of sending faster than light messages via
an EPR / Bell Inequality type mechanism, and would appreciate some
feedback (and hoping this is a suitable venue).

Transluminal transmission of information violates causality. The
universe does not tolerate contradiction.

I am aware that faster than light signaling is generally not
considered possible by this process. The reason being that the
inequality is determined by comparing the spins of the correlated
pairs of photons at the two stations ... and this can only be done
at the end of the run at subluminal speeds.

Data transmission can be instantaneous. Information transmission is
no faster than ligthspeed.

However my proposal -- although it employs a typical EPR type set
up -- is not used to demonstrate the Bell Inequality, and does not
require post-test communication between the two stations. All the
information required can be obtained from the 'receiving' station
alone.

Doubtful absent a strong presentation.

The set-up and procedure are described in more detail below, but
briefly it involves measuring the difference in the number of
'spin-up', and 'spin-down' photons passing through a nominated
'receiving' filter for a large number of counts, over a series of
runs, and then calculating the standard deviation for the series.
The test is carried out at different angles between the two filters
and the standard deviations compared for the various angles.

I am predicting / expecting that the standard deviation will increase
as the angle between the filters is increased.

Based on the above an observer at the 'receiving' filter is able
to predict the relative angle between that filter and the 'sending'
filter - without subsequent reference to the 'sending' filter. So,
with pre-arranged signs for the different relative angles between
the filters, messages can be sent at the speed of the interaction
between the photons which is considered either instantaneous or at
least significantly faster than the speed of light.

The cause of the increased scatter / standard deviation is that the
photons at the 'receiving' filter receive an additional set of
'adjustments' when their original alignment is changed as a consequence
of their correlated photons passing through the other 'sending'
filter. And the extent of this 'adjustment' increases as the angle
between the filters increases - more spins get changed - (although
the average number of counts per unit time remains essentially
unchanged ... and very close to half the electrons observed to be
passing through the filter will be 'up' and the other half 'down').

Cross two linear polarizers (black) then insert a third linear
polarizer between them and rotated 45 degrees vs. either. Your
measurement cannot made to a definitive conclusion.

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