Re: Non-homogenous theories of space and time

From: Mike Helland (mhelland_at_techmocracy.net)
Date: 06/03/04 

Date: 3 Jun 2004 07:16:23 -0700

Bjoern Feuerbacher <feuerbac@thphys.uni-heidelberg.de> wrote in message news:<c9mqgt$imf$1@news.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>...

> But OTOH, you also said that *every* observation using "electromagnetic
> interactions" would yield such a result. So you think that simply
> looking with our eyes is *not* an observation using "electromagnetic
> interactions", or what???

The result I'm talking about is a number, so only quantified
measurements are what I'm discussing at this point.

> > I agree, but I still suspect the radius will be zero.
>
> On what basis do you suspect this? If you agree with my argument, how
> *can* you still suspect this?
>
> > Will it? You say no, I say yes. Experiment is the only way to tell.
>
> Well, *my* prediction is based on GR, a well-established theory, and
> simple geometrical considerations. *Your* prediction, OTOH, seems to
> be totally baseless. If you think otherwise, please tell me on what
> basis you arrived at that prediction.

Here is the basis (it is a summary of my hypothesis, so if you find
this hard to follow you may want to check out the full text):

1. Our reality exists as a system of information about the
interactions we observe. This this system of information is called
"nature"

(This is close to the copenhagen interpretation. You'll see soon my
deviations from and extensions to this view.)

2. Matter, space, and time do not "make up" this information. Instead,
matter, space, and time emerge from this information.

(This information doesn't exist in space, space exists within the
information. Same with time and matter. This all seems very similar to
what Leibniz suggested centuries ago. Regarding time this also seems
similar to Julian Barbour's ideas.)

3. If space exists within the information about our interactions and
only gravitational interactions occur between observers and a black
hole then no information will exist about electromagnetic interaction
for an observer of a black hole and thus there should exist no space,
matter, or time.

To test this we will see if space can be measured and quantified as
non-zero by strictly electromagnetic interactions like the experiment
we've discussed this far.

It is quite possible that I'm interpreting my own conjecture
incorrectly. For example there will be em interactions with the light
on other side of the event horizon. Perhaps this light will lead to a
meaningfull measurement of the distance in between. But it still looks
like based on my premises that to an observer "the distance in
between" doesn't technically exist.

So is it a good prediction? It will do for now.

You've made it this far, you should try giving my papers an honest
read. They seem to be getting more downloads than ever over the last
week. Just remember that to really understand my ideas you'll probably
need to contemplate the silly sounding explanations before getting to
the meat. 

--
Mike Helland
http://www.techmocracy.net/science/zeno.htm

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