Re: Special relativity, the expanding universe and dark energy

From: Bjoern Feuerbacher (feuerbac_at_thphys.uni-heidelberg.de)
Date: 06/07/04


Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2004 16:52:21 +0200

Ace wrote:
> I thought the big bang theory argued that the universe originated as a
> point,

That's a popular misconception. The theory says only that the universe
started from an infinitely dense state. That doesn't had to be a point.

And even that statement of the theory is accepted by essentially no one
as probably true - people think that for describing the very earliest
stages of the universe, one needs a working Quantum Theory of Gravity.

> and is forever expanding

Probably true - although there is still a faint possibility that it
might recollapse again.

> (BTW, the brane theory, involving a
> collision between dimensions, seems more coherent to me. The
> inflation part of the big bang theory doesn't seem rational.)

Why not?

And, BTW, "collision between dimensions" does not make much sense.
You probably mean a collision between branes, i.e. the ekpyrotic model,
right?

> If the universe has no outer bound, then what does it mean for it to
> be expanding?

That all distances in it increase.

> Trying to simplify my thought, imagine two objects in orbit around
> each other. Both objects are ejecting energetic particles at high
> speed, and they are slowly converting mass into energy. So their
> mass is going down over time, and the density of mass (and energy) at
> a distance is going up. Won't they drift apart from each other as a
> result?

Depends on the details of the process, I would say.

For example, if the energy is radiated off in a spherical symmetric
way, there will be only a spherically symmetric energy distribution
around the bodies - and such a distribution does not influence the
motion of the bodies inside it.

> Or does the symmetry of the change in mass/energy
> distribution result in no net change in the forces of gravity acting
> on the objects?

Sorry, I don't understand what symmetry you are talking about here.

> I need to learn more about general relativity.

What is your background? Can you understand the math, or do you
want to have a non-technical introduction?

> I know about
> gravitational lensing, but I've never read a concise summary of it
> that made any sense to me.

What are your problems with it?

> Does it come down to the fact that energy
> also has gravity?

No, mass alone is sufficient to explain it.

> Can anyone summarize GR in a few sentences for me,

Energy curves space, and objects move in that curved space following
the curvature. That's the essence.

> or point me to a good source to read about it?

Sorry, I know of no good pop science source... :-(

For the Big Bang theory, you could try "Kosmologie fuer
die Westentasche" by Kippenhahn, if you understand German...

> On a related note, I was reading about a dark energy study that's
> looking for the disappearance of gravitons as potential proof of
> multiple dimensions.

I never heard of that. Where did you read that?

> I thought gravitons were still theoretical.

Better word here: hypothetical.

> Have they actually been observed?

No, AFAIK.

> How much is known about them?

They are hypothetical... There isn't even a working theory
which would predict them and tell us more about their
properties!

[snip sig]

Bye,
Bjoern



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