Re: My New Website

From: Y.Porat (maporat_at_012.net.il)
Date: 06/08/04 

Date: 7 Jun 2004 22:42:41 -0700

Lothar Brendel <l.no.spam.brendel@uni-duisburg.de> wrote in message news:<ca2f0c$dud$1@a1-hrz.uni-duisburg.de>...
> Y.Porat wrote:
>
> [...insults...]
>
> > in your model you see sphers and 'arms streching from it
> > ie it can be called a 'junction of those arms'
> > we have to take it as an 'unknown' !! not as something that is 'known'
> > ie to asume that it is *one atom*
>
> But X-ray does _not_ say "there is an junction with 4 arms"! X-ray says,
> around an _atom_ there are nearest neighbors at distance d arranged in
> symmetry S, then next-nearest neighbours at distance d2 arranged in
> symmetry S2...
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you are absolutely right!
in the x ray we see just say 'black points' nothing else
all thase 'bars' of arms or whaever we call it
are 'our additions' imaginary complementary additions

all i tried to do untill is to get a common language with
both of you but that is no news to me ... i know it yeaers ago...
and it does not change my claim
that you didnt calculate how many 'black points' per Cm^3
are there.

you are so locked on your asumption ;
that each 'black point' there is just *one atom* -
that you are even not aware about how strong you are locked on it !!.

my basic claim is that this 'black point' in too many
crystals and metal latice,
*is not of one atom but more than one *!!!
and you cant notice it by the x ray because
you have there say two atome with a 'close to zero' distance!!!
got the claime ???

if right it is a revolutionary finding!

now to prove it or disprove it we have to....
calculate hiow many 'such 'black points' (found in the x ray)-
are there in a Cm^3!!
the calculation has to look not as your 8/8 + 6/2 etc etc
because it has the hidden assumption of *one atom* per 'black point'

it has to look like say

1.5 Angetrem* cos alpha (what ever cos alpha might be(in the x direction
and
1..... cos beta (in the Y direction )
and 1.0abc Angstrem * cos gama or beta or gama or whatever (in the z direction)

so you have a poroblem to find what are the distances
in each x or Y or Z direction not only the 'closest distance'-
it is a 3d structure and has different distances
at the x y z directions (actually if i remember correct
in two directions it is the same and only in the 'z'
direction it is different - much longer!
between the 'joints' or 'black points of the x ray picture'

i tryed to call it 'joints' because it is a cross point
between those imaginary 'bars' or armes that stretch out
of those 'black points of the x ray'

btw
an interesting thing about that marvelous structure:
in the say x and Y' directions if you look at it you see
hexagons
if you look from the Z direction you have a surprise you see .rectangles.

and another intersting thing to note
that 3d rhomboheder is the same
as in organic chemisrty in which you have the
3d 'cradles' or 'armchires'.
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please note that i refrain from calling
those ,black points' 'the atoms'
because for at least for me- it is not 'atoms' but
in too many cases-
couples or sometimes more than couples of atoms
actually in most cases two atoms in that single 'black point'!
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hope that at least we start to understand each other.
(at least the diferences between us .)

 ps you are right that what i sayed 15 angstrem volume is wrong
i meant 15 A ^3 - more or less
TIA
Y.Porat
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