Re: A Letter to George Hammond, and all Christians for that matter.

From: George Hammond (research137_at_hotmail.com)
Date: 06/11/04 

Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 22:41:21 GMT

"Steve Marshall" <sdm@atmosBlockA.plus.com> wrote in message
news:ccoyc.14036$NK4.2051252@stones.force9.net...
>
> "George Hammond" <research137@hotmail.com> wrote
>
> > > I'm talking about taking photos where there are no people. The image
can
> > > then be relayed back to where there are people.
> >
> > [Hammond]
> > THAT'S EXACTLY THE POINT:
> > If "all people are dead".... there
> > ARE NO "other people".
> >
>
> Don't you even understand the question ? Forget dead people. I'm saying we
> can take a picture in a place where there are NO people. By your reasoning
> there shouldn't be that place because it requires people to make it exist.
> There are no observers in places we cannot see, so by your reasoning they
> should not exist.

[Hammond]
Oh comon Marshall.... you simply CAN'T be that stupid.
AS LONG AS PEOPLE EXIST ("Man exists") then the
entire Universe and everything "knowable, deducible, detectable,
observable, figurable, ponderable, remotely measureable,
etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, EXISTS).
  On the other hand, if "Man does not exist", then NOTHING
IS "knowable, deducible, detectable, observable, figurable,
ponderable, remotely measureable, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc",
and that INCLUDES taking a picture of a remote location.

>
>
> > [Hammond]
> > It is a prima facie correct statement,
> > and the IGNORANCE of scientists
> > about this fact, explains why they
> > "can't understand what God is".
>
> No, it isn't ignorance. I think many people understand what you are
saying.
> They simply disagree with you. And they disagree with you becasue they
have
> knowledge. They know you are talking about fairy stories which you have
> invented and rely on belief not proof.

[Hammond]
LOL.... you're not only a fool, you're a liar.
The argument that "reality is in the mind" is an
old argument dfirst carefully published by Bishop
Berkely in 1710 and further confirmed by
Mary Baker Eddy who founded the Christian
Sciience Religion on it. The only reason SCIENTISTS
have never considered it anything other than an
"interesting curiosity" is that there has never been a
HARD SCIENCE PROOF that the "size of the brain,
hence the size of the mind, hence the size of reality"
is a VARIABLE, and is described axiomatically by
General Relativity.
   Noqw that THAT has been discovered, the
argument now has a PRACTICAL, URGENT
and POLITICAL significance.
   It is the practical significance of the Berkley/Baker
argument that Hammond has now supplied by finding
an EXPERIMENTAL PROOF OF GOD based
on it. Fact is, the argument has ALWAYS BEEN
KNOWN to have face validity.... its just that
people didn't recognize the PRACTICAL SIGNIFICANCE
of it until Hammond found it to lie at the root of
the world's first true (experimentally proved)
scientific proof of God.

>
>
> I ask again for you to demonstrate the creation of matter in a sealed unit
> using your mind.
>
> I'm looking for observables. You have offered none.
>
[Hammond]
"GOD" is now an "observable", and my theory
posted on my website and published in the peer
reviewed literature, explains HOW GOD IS
EXPERIMENTALLY CONFIRMED AND
MEASURED.

> > Cripes Sherlock... let me say it again.
>
> No thanks. It is nonsense. You have no evidence. no support. Nothing from
> science to back you up. I'm not interested in listening to fairy stories.
> You claim to be a scientist. Where is the science to support you
allegation
> that :-

[Hammond]
You're just a heckle-bot. The evidence is clearly CITED
on my website and has been published in the peer
reviewed literature.

>
> a) the world suddenly appeared
> b) the universe is 40,000 years old
> c) humans/ minds came into being 40,000 years ago.
> d) that fossils were in the earth upon it's creation.
>
> Any real scientist uses SCIENCE and does not resort to fanciful nonsense
> like saying the universe was created by magic.

[Hammond]
You're just another name calling heckler.
You're just a heckle-bot. The evidence is clearly CITED
on my website and has been published in the peer
reviewed literature.

> You are a fraudulent liar.

[Hammond]
You're just another name calling heckler.
You're just a heckle-bot. The evidence is clearly CITED
on my website and has been published in the peer
reviewed literature.

>
> Steve M
>
>
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