Re: A Letter to George Hammond, and all Christians for that matter.

From: George Hammond (research137_at_hotmail.com)
Date: 06/12/04 

Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2004 17:32:58 GMT

"Gwar" <xeno@xor.qua> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 11 Jun 2004, George Hammond wrote:
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> >
> > "Gwar" <xeno@xor.qua> wrote in message
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> > > On Fri, 11 Jun 2004, George Hammond wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > "Gwar" <xeno@xor.qua> wrote in message
> > > > news:Pine.BSF.4.31.0406110032220.29354-100000@localhost...
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> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, 10 Jun 2004, George Hammond wrote:
> > >
> > > >>> If "all people are dead".... there ARE NO "other people".
> > >
> > > >> So what. The universe existed before there were people,
> > >
> > > > [Hammond]
> > > > WRONG. "existence" is a property of the human mind.
> > >
> > >
> > > Existence is a property of things external to the human mind.
> >
> > [Hammond]
> > ABSOLUTELY WRONG. SHEER IGNORANCE.
> >
> > If all human minds died tomorrow morning,
> > how would you "know, demonstrate, or prove"
> > that the Universe still existed tomorrow night.
> > Just answer the question please.
>
> You admit that the universe is 15,000,000,000 years old; so you can't
> claim that it is no older than 40,000 to fit your ridiculous theory, w/o
> being in contradition. That's the basis of my statement above.

[Hammond]
"In reality" the Universe is older than 40,000
years, but HUMAN REALITY IS NOT.
Since the Universe is 15-billion years old
"within Reality".... we see that it was
nevertheless "Created 40,000 years ago"
when "reality" was created. To say "It
existed" 15 billion years ago...
"tacitly assumes" the existence of a "hypothetical
human observer". But in fact.... that
assumption is FALSE.

<snip ad hominem heckling>

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