Re: Corralling the Mass Maker: Hunting ground shifts for elusive particle

From: Bjoern Feuerbacher (feuerbac_at_thphys.uni-heidelberg.de)
Date: 06/15/04 

Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 13:22:52 +0200

Y.Porat wrote:
> Sam Wormley <swormley1@mchsi.com> wrote in message news:<40CDD569.3CBAB696@mchsi.com>...
>
>>Ref: http://www.sciencenews.org/articles/20040612/fob1.asp
>>Science News Week of June 12, 2004; Vol. 165, No. 24 , p. 371
>>
>>Corralling the Mass Maker: Hunting ground shifts for elusive particle
>>
>> It was the year 2000, and scientists at a European particle collider
>> observed possible traces of the subatomic particle known as the Higgs
>> boson-the presumed origin of mass itself and the most-wanted quarry
>> in high-energy physics today. Despite a feverish search for
>> confirming evidence, they came up empty-handed (SN: 12/9/00, p. 381).
>> Perhaps they were looking in the wrong place.
>>
>> In the June 10 Nature, researchers at the Fermi National Accelerator
>> Laboratory (Fermilab) in Batavia, Ill., report that the mass that
>> physicists had assigned to a different subatomic particle, the top
>> quark, is too low. That may have misled scientists in their hunt for
>> the Higgs boson.
>
> ---------------------
> should it need to take so long and with such enormous waist of
> time and fortunes to realise that the 'boson story'
> is a non starter??

The "boson story" had a *lot* of success in the past decades - it
predicted a wealth of stuff which was subsequently found experimentally.
Start with the Z boson.

So how can it be a non-starter if it accomplished so much?

I wonder what you will say in a few years when LHC is running and
they will have found the Higgs?

> had those peolpe been physicists and not devious matemathiciance
> they would reject it imediatley on its birth.

Err, checking hypothesis of a physical theory *is* physics. Since that
is what was done at LEP, Fermilab and other accelerators, these people
*are* physicists, not mathematician.

You have no clue what mathematicians work on. Hint: it has in general
only very little to do with physics like Quantum Field Theory.

> ---------------
> crackpot
> Y.Porat
> ------------------

Thanks that you keep pointing this out.

Bye,
Bjoern

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