Re: Article: Sizing up the Universe

From: greywolf42 (mingstb_at_marssim-ss.com)
Date: 06/19/04 

Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2004 06:53:11 -0700

Myxococcus xanthus <mold-guardian@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> "greywolf42" <mingstb@marssim-ss.com> wrote in message
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> > Myxococcus xanthus <mold-guardian@comcast.net> wrote in message
> > news:ce5e7813.0406062331.4c9d9e9d@posting.google.com...
>
> > > Miller's apparatus was extremely sensitive to temperature,
> >
> > No matter how often this bold-faced lie is trotted out, it doesn't make
it
> > true.
> >
> > > and Miller
> > > had to subtract out temperature-dependent shifts that frequently
> > > amounted to over 2 fringes per minute.
> >
> > No matter how often this bold-faced lie is trotted out, it doesn't make
it
> > true.
>
> Just passing through, then have to get back to work...
>
> Barry, you've obviously NEVER actually read Miller's papers, otherwise
> you would have caught my typographical error. I had MEANT to write
> that Miller had to subtract out temperature-dependent shifts that
> frequently acounted to over 2 fringes PER EXPERIMENTAL RUN, which
> works out to over 0.1 fringe per minute.
>
> This is still a huge amount. Within a single rotation, the instrument
> would drift by an amount several times the magnitude of the effect
> that Miller was trying to measure.

No matter how often this bold-faced lie is trotted out, it doesn't make it
true.

> How can you accuse me of lying, when you obviously aren't familiar
> enough with Miller's work to catch me on a simple mistake?

Another Kindergarten poster. A lie is a lie. Miller said nothing like the
above.

> Miller wrote: "A 'set' of readings which corresponds to a 'single
> observation,' represented by one point on the charts of the original
> observations, usually consists of twenty turns, involving three
> hundred and twenty readings, made in about eighteen minutes... The
> adjustments are maintained so that the central fringe of the field of
> view, Fig. 7, is never more than two fringe-widths from the fiducial
> point. Often the temperature drift is such that the fringes shift more
> than this before a set of twenty turns is completed."

Note that Miller did not say that he had "to subtract out
temperature-dependent shifts."

A lie is still a lie. Even if you post a different lie than the one you
originally intended.

> Barry, are you accusing Miller of being a bold-faced liar?
>
> I am shocked, SHOCKED that you would so impugn Miller's integrity!

Apparently, Myxococcus has not evolved to the point that his brain has
differentiated. 

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