Re: We have the basic elements for a "warp drive"

From: Laura (laura_at_nospam.me)
Date: 06/22/04 

Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 08:26:45 +0200

"asps" <asps.ra1@flashnet.it> wrote in message
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> > <matricola555@yahoo.it> wrote in message
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> > > www.asps.it/nucleoin.htm
> > >
> > > we are doing TdS1 thruster more fast
> > >
> > > www.asps.it/dinpnn.htm
> >
> > This isn't a warp drive. If you insist on using Star Trek terminology,
> maybe
> > it's an impulse drive :-)
> >
> [first excuse my english]
>
> > The warp drive hypothesis calls for space itself to be compressed in
front
> > of the vessel,
>
> "space compression" has no physical meaning ...

Of course it does. It may not be part of the device you're working on, but
that doesn't render it meaningless :-)

> we can say only that our pnn
> thruster "swim" in the e.m. field

Yes. All I'm saying is that to call it "warp drive" is fundamentally
incorrect. What you potentially have there should be called something else.
"Warp" means "bend" or "deform". Your device doesn't bend or deform
anything.

>
> >thus physically shortening the distance that must be traveled
> > to get to the destination. Not all of the distance at once, though -
just
> a
> > tiny bit of it, and once the vessel has passed through that, another
tiny
> > bit, and so on. It could be described as creating a "wave" in space, and
> > then surfing that wave. It is purely hypothetical. We have no practical
> idea
> > of how to provide the enormous amounts of energy required to do
something
> > like this, and even if we did, we'd have to find a way of warping space
> with
> > it.
>
> no enormous amount of energy are required becouse pnn thruster doesn't
> vilolate momentum and energy conservation ...

I wasn't describing the energy requirements of your pnn thruster. I was
describing the hypothetical warp drive - a means of propulsion that works by
deforming local space so as to shorten the distance to be traveled, allowing
the craft to cover greater distance in a shorter time, possibly faster than
the speed of light. It could be described as a "bubble" of deformed space;
within that bubble, the craft flies at slower than light speeds, but the
bubble itself is hurtling along at faster than light speeds. Thus, the craft
doesn't have to accelerate to that speed, and the crew won't have to be
subjected to either a very very long wait or to lethal G-forces.
Of course, to achieve this effect, extreme gravitic effects would have to be
somehow generated, and that would require monstrous amounts of energy input
to a generator we don't even have a design for yet. Warp drive is very much
a hypothetical thing :-)

> when it increase its kinetic energy it decrease its magnetic potential
> energy ........ so its e.m. mass decrease as soon as pnn velocity increase
> .......
> http://itis.volta.alessandria.it/episteme/ep6/ep6-asps.htm
> http://itis.volta.alessandria.it/episteme/ep7/ep7-asps.htm

I'm sorry, but I don't speak italian.
You really should think about an english version of your site - especially
if you want responses from people on the sci newsgroups.

>
> > The beauty of the idea is that the vessel itself wouldn't have to move
> > faster than the speed of light;
>
> i don't know what a pnn system might do ..... we make experiments about
450
> MHz and 50 Watt ..... we strongly suspect that velocity incerase in a no
> linear manner as frequency and energy increase

Does the math say it will?
Or do you just suspect it?

>
> >the deformation in space could do that
> > instead, and the vessel would simply stay within this wave in space.
> >Such a
> > wave could possibly break the lightspeed barrier, since it is neither
> matter
> > nor electromagnetic radiation.
>
> as the e.m. mass of a pnn system decrease as soon as pnn velocity
increase
> we have good perspectives for FTL travels

Will normal matter even survive faster than light travel?

>
> >Whether it really could, however, remains to
> > be seen.
>
> we need to increase energy and frequency of TdS1 thruster to see if FTL
> travels might be possible ....

How long would your device have to accelerate to see if it can or not?

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