Re: Lab experiments on control of dark energy?

From: starwars (sizzgyqw_at_uslgssnetcoms.com)
Date: 07/12/04 

Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 09:47:51 -0500

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"Jack Sarfatti" <sarfatti@pacbell.net> wrote in message
news:dSfIc.90121$7A5.1667@newssvr29.news.prodigy.com...
> PS
> It is important to understand why Hal Puthoff's previous attempts to
> explain this very same data of Ken Shoulders did not work. Hal did not
> ask the right question. He is not alone in that of course. Hal made the
> false assumption that it was the QED Casimir force that would hold the
> 100 billion electrons together in the charge cluster. In fact what is
> really going on is a completely different physical effect. It is ZPF
> induced gravity dependent on partial vacuum coherence. BTW when one
> reads "Science and Ultimate Reality" it is obvious how the string-brane
> theorists are shining strong lights in the wrong part of the Dark Cave.
> You do not now seem to need exorbitant new mathematical superstructures
> like "colliding branes" to explain any of the new cosmological
> observations nor any of the high energy physics particle observations.
>
> On Jul 11, 2004, at 11:16 AM, Jack Sarfatti wrote:
>
> PS: Ken's lab experiments seem to be relevant to this discussion.
> His "charge clusters" (AKA "EVO") that I interpret as glued together by
> strong short-range effective gravity induced by micro-quantum zero
> point energy exotic vacuum cores on the mesoscopic scale are
> self-propelled charged geons. The self-propulsion comes for temporary
> unstable inhomogeneous distributions of positive and negative zero
> point quantum pressures at different parts of the EVO.
>
> On Jul 11, 2004, at 6:59 AM, Ken Shoulders wrote:
>
> SUPERLUMINAL PARTICLE MEASUREMENTS
> by
>
> Ken Shoulders and Dr. Jack Sarfatti
>
> Abstract
> Measurements made on clusters of electrons operating as Exotic Vacuum
> Objects, or EVOs, show velocities exceeding that of light. A theory of
> this behavior is presented based on manipulation of parameters
> available in this new field of exotic vacuum engineering.
>
> This paper can be downloaded from: http://www.svn.net/krscfs/
>
> Ken Shoulders
>
>
>
> Note that Ken was a long-time collaborator of Hal Puthoff's way back in
> Hal's National Security Agency days. Ken has many patents in micro-wave
> miniaturization and has devoted many decades to these EVO measurements.
>
> On Jul 11, 2004, at 10:58 AM, Jack Sarfatti wrote:
>
> On testing macro-quantum theory of emergent gravity in cosmology
> On Jul 10, 2004, at 12:10 PM,
>
> This is the one to shoot down.
>
> http://qedcorp.com/destiny/CoherentCosmos.pdf
>
> (expanded version posted last night)
>
> If you can?
>
> Show it is wrong, or not even wrong.
>
> Happy Hunting.
>
> :-)
>
>
>
> Paul
> On issue of the tidal stretch-squeeze liquid drop local measurement of
> the curvature tensor in free float LIF that is not a problem. As Ray
> Chiao points out in his "Conceptual Tensions" paper in "Science and
> Ultimate Reality" you need to distinguish the center of mass motion
> from the relative motion of a spatially extended object like even a
> small liquid drop with small enough surface tension. The g-force
> argument of local vanishing of the connection field applies only to
> the center of mass effective "point test particle" degree of freedom,
> not to the tidal stretch-squeeze relative motions of the pieces of the
> liquid drop, which must be "free" (ignorable interparticle forces) to
> get a good measurement.
>
> Now, in terms of "nonlocality" of the pure gravity energy.
>
> Obviously we can trivially define a local stress-energy density tensor
> for the pure vacuum gravity field as simply
>
>
> tuv(Geometry) = (c^4/G)Guv
>
> Guv = Ruv - (1/2)Rguv
>
> Einstein's 1916 field equation is then simply
>
> tuv(Geometry) + Tuv(Matter) = 0
>
> In the classical vacuum with zero micro-quantum ZPF i.e. /\zpf = 0
>
> and with Tuv(Matter) = 0
>
> Then trivially
>
> tuv(Geometry) = 0 in non-exotic vacuum.
>
> MTW say this.
>
>
> The problem is that you cannot get a global Pu from integrating this
> tuv(Geometry) over 3D space for a "Geon" in Wheeler's sense.
>
> You need to split the tensor tuv(Geometry) into two pseudo-tensor
> pieces, one is a kind of background frame for the other, which when
> integrated gives a Pu for gravity waves from the rotating vibrating
> Geon.
>
> Note, in terms of metric engineering.
>
> When /\zpf = 0, at the given scale, with zero torsion and zero other
> fields from NOT locally gauging complete conformal group,
>
> Tuv(Matter)^;v = 0
>
> tuv(Geometry)^;v = 0
>
> Separately. No intermixing between the geometrodynamics and the matter
> fields that live on the geometrodynamics.
>
> This FORBIDS metric engineering. But the situation changes when /\zpf
> =/= 0!
>
> I leave for airport to London in a few hours.
>
>
>
>
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> On Jul 11, 2004, at 11:16 AM, Jack Sarfatti wrote:
>
> PS: Ken's lab experiments seem to be relevant to this discussion.
> His "charge clusters" (AKA "EVO") that I interpret as glued together by
> strong short-range effective gravity induced by micro-quantum zero point
> energy exotic vacuum cores on the mesoscopic scale are self-propelled
> charged geons. The self-propulsion comes for temporary unstable
> inhomogeneous distributions of positive and negative zero point quantum
> pressures at different parts of the EVO.
>
> On Jul 11, 2004, at 6:59 AM, Ken Shoulders wrote:
>
> SUPERLUMINAL PARTICLE MEASUREMENTS
> by
>
> Ken Shoulders and Dr. Jack Sarfatti
>
> Abstract
> Measurements made on clusters of electrons operating as Exotic Vacuum
> Objects, or EVOs, show velocities exceeding that of light. A theory of
> this behavior is presented based on manipulation of parameters available
> in this new field of exotic vacuum engineering.
>
> This paper can be downloaded from: http://www.svn.net/krscfs/
>
> Ken Shoulders
>
>
>
> Note that Ken was a long-time collaborator of Hal Puthoff's way back in
> Hal's National Security Agency days. Ken has many patents in micro-wave
> miniaturization and has devoted many decades to these EVO measurements.
>
> On Jul 11, 2004, at 10:58 AM, Jack Sarfatti wrote:
>
> On testing macro-quantum theory of emergent gravity in cosmology
> On Jul 10, 2004, at 12:10 PM,
>
> This is the one to shoot down.
>
> http://qedcorp.com/destiny/CoherentCosmos.pdf
>
> (expanded version posted last night)
>
> If you can?
>
> Show it is wrong, or not even wrong.
>
> Happy Hunting.
>
> :-)
>
>
>
> Paul
> On issue of the tidal stretch-squeeze liquid drop local measurement of
> the curvature tensor in free float LIF that is not a problem. As Ray
> Chiao points out in his "Conceptual Tensions" paper in "Science and
> Ultimate Reality" you need to distinguish the center of mass motion from
> the relative motion of a spatially extended object like even a small
> liquid drop with small enough surface tension. The g-force argument of
> local vanishing of the connection field applies only to the center of
> mass effective "point test particle" degree of freedom, not to the tidal
> stretch-squeeze relative motions of the pieces of the liquid drop, which
> must be "free" (ignorable interparticle forces) to get a good measurement.
>
> Now, in terms of "nonlocality" of the pure gravity energy.
>
> Obviously we can trivially define a local stress-energy density tensor
> for the pure vacuum gravity field as simply
>
>
> tuv(Geometry) = (c^4/G)Guv
>
> Guv = Ruv - (1/2)Rguv
>
> Einstein's 1916 field equation is then simply
>
> tuv(Geometry) + Tuv(Matter) = 0
>
> In the classical vacuum with zero micro-quantum ZPF i.e. /\zpf = 0
>
> and with Tuv(Matter) = 0
>
> Then trivially
>
> tuv(Geometry) = 0 in non-exotic vacuum.
>
> MTW say this.
>
>
> The problem is that you cannot get a global Pu from integrating this
> tuv(Geometry) over 3D space for a "Geon" in Wheeler's sense.
>
> You need to split the tensor tuv(Geometry) into two pseudo-tensor
> pieces, one is a kind of background frame for the other, which when
> integrated gives a Pu for gravity waves from the rotating vibrating Geon.
>
> Note, in terms of metric engineering.
>
> When /\zpf = 0, at the given scale, with zero torsion and zero other
> fields from NOT locally gauging complete conformal group,
>
> Tuv(Matter)^;v = 0
>
> tuv(Geometry)^;v = 0
>
> Separately. No intermixing between the geometrodynamics and the matter
> fields that live on the geometrodynamics.
>
> This FORBIDS metric engineering. But the situation changes when /\zpf =/=
0!
>
> I leave for airport to London in a few hours.
>
>
>

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