Re: The size of the shortest wave depends and is determined by the speed of light

From: Mitchell Jones (mjones_at_jump.net)
Date: 07/12/04


Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 23:59:59 GMT

In article <LbedndzK4PVvr23dRVn-hA@comcast.com>,
 "Laurent" <cyberdyno5@netzero.net> wrote:

> "Einstein developed this insight, treating gravity as an
> accelerational field. He realized that being held stationary in a
> gravitational field (as on the Earth's surface) had the same effects
> on one's measurements as being accelerated in deep space by a rocket
> (at 9.8 m/s2). Thus he formulated his principle of equivalence of
> gravitational and inertial acceleration (EGIA). However, Einstein
> analyzed gravity and its effects subjectivistically, placing
> observers in accelerated states or in free fall relative to other
> observers and considering how their measurements would differ. He
> thus failed to see the objective and physical implications of the
> EGIA. Let us instead treat space as a physical entity and presume
> that like effects result from like causes. Let us presume that the
> accelerating space ship and the Earth-surface observer are both in a
> state of acceleration relative to their surrounding inertial space;
> neither being free to return to the natural state of
> non-acceleration relative to space. We therefore find that the EGIA
> implies that in a gravitational field, inertial space itself is
> accelerating towards the gravitational attractor. Indeed, an
> inertial space that accelerates radially towards all matter at
> GM/r^2 explains the ballistic, mechanical aspects of gravity. Thus
> we find that we can improve Newton's theory by transforming his
> absolute space from a solid to a liquid; allowing it to flow into
> matter like a fluid into a sink. Can such a "flowing" space also
> explain the other effects of gravity--such as the red shift of
> atomic spectra and the curvature of light? If so, can it be mere
> coincidence? " --- Henry H. Lindner

***{OK, Lauren, you posted the above quote and Lindner isn't here, so
these questions are for you:

(1) If we postulate that "space" flows into masses to explain gravity,
then what do we postulate to explain *why* the "space" flows? Do we
postulate gravity, perhaps? :-)

(2) Where does "space"go after flowing into a mass? Does it flow right
back out again? If water flows out of a bathtub, it does so because the
drain is open. If the drain is plugged, or if there is no drain, then it
doesn't flow out. Do you claim that there are drains in masses through
which inflows of "space" can drain out?

(3) If the "space" doesn't drain out, then it must remain in the mass
into which it flowed, right? Therefore, as more and more "space" flows
into a mass, the pressure difference causing the flow ought to become
less and less, right? And eventually, the pressure should equalize,
right? In other words, as time passes the gravity of a massive body
ought to become less and less, until it eventually falls to zero, right?

If satisfactory answers to the above questions cannot be found, then the
"space flow" theory of gravity is in ruins, is it not?

--Mitchell Jones}***

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