Re: The Conflict Between Quantum Theory and General Relativity

From: Sam Wormley (swormley1_at_mchsi.com)
Date: 07/21/04 

Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 00:37:10 GMT

Alfred Einstead wrote:
>
> Sam Wormley <swormley1@mchsi.com> wrote:
> > There has NEVER been a prediction of QM, SR or GTR that was
> > contradicted by an observation. NEVER!
>
> Matter in GTR is classical with 0 uncertainty between position
> and momentum, which is contradicted by observation.

  QM, SR or GTR don't pretend to be theories of everything
  working is all domains.
>
> SR is Minkowski space, meaning flat space. No gravity, which
> is contradicted by the observation that gravity exists.
>
> And QM (by which you actually mean QFT) isn't mathematically
> well-defined. There is no known mathematically consistent
> 2nd quantized interacting field in dimensions greater than 3
> (maybe except for some toy models, but not even Phi^4 is
> workable); and the Interaction Picture (on which S-matrix
> theory is based) is already known to be inconsistent.
>
> Therefore, the question of prediction isn't relevant, since
> there's nothing there yet. It isn't even wrong.

  It is not my intention to say what you say is wrong, but, that in
  the context of their domains, these theories are not falsified by
  empirical data. If we were to be very rigorous and correct in these
  newsgroups, almost every statement would be wrong! But we are not
  engaging each other at that level of rigor, and are instead trying
  to assist each other in a better conceptual understanding of physics
  principles.

  MIT Professor, Edward Farhi, "There has never been a prediction of
  QM that has contradicted an observation. NEVER!"

  My statements in sci.physics, "there has NEVER been a prediction of
  QM that was contradicted by an observation. NEVER!" The reason I
  state it that way is because we tell students that theories are good
  until the are falsified by any single empirical observation that
  counters the predictions of the theory. Yet these theories QM, SR are
  GTR remarkably correct and useful.

  Further dialog welcome, as I might learn something.
 -Sam

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