Re: Big Bang Baloney....or scientific cult? [ scientific methods ]

From: Ralph Hertle (ralph.hertle_at_verizon.net)
Date: 07/22/04 

Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 17:33:12 GMT

Bill:

[snip]

Bill Hobba wrote:

> Ralph Hertle wrote:
>
>>The widest concepts of existence are dealt with by philosophy,
>>especially within the classifications of metaphysics and epistemology.
>
>
> Yes. To do physics you only need a very simple philosophy saying things
> like time is what clocks read or space not endowed with a coordinate system
> is not much use etc. Such is not satisfying to a philosopher but all you
> need to do physics.
>

[snip]

I think that you are minimizing the role of philosophy in science. There
is far more to it than that.

For example is is in philosophy that the following topics and
subsciences are discussed"

Philosophy

        Methods of developing knowledge

Metaphysics

        Basic axioms

                Existence
                Being
                Continuity
                Nature of man

        Identifications of nature of existents
                
                Substance
                Properties
                Change
                Potentials for change
                Location, methods of identification
                size, concepts of amount
                Types of motion
                Functioning
                Results of causes

Epistemology

        Basic axioms

                Consciousness
                        Nature of mind
                        Memory
                        Processing
                        Identification

        Theory of Knowledge

                Definitions
                        Genus and differentia
                        Proofs of definitions
                Generalizations

        Logic
                Induction
                        Concept formation
                        Inferences
                        Generalization
                        Innovation
                        Invention
                        Discovery
                        Identification
                        Methods of induction
                        Validation of induction
                        Verification of deductive premises

                Deduction
                        Syllogistic logic
                        Proof
                        Demonstration
                        Experimentation
                        Methods
                        Rules
                        Validation of inductive concepts

        Psychology

                Sense Perception
                        biological structures
                        Processing
                        Awareness
                Concept formation
                        Biological structures
                        Processing
                        Purpose formulation
                Logic
                Pathology
                

Science [ or Philosophy of Science ]

        Cause and effect

        Methods

                Scientific method(s)
                        Demonstration
                        Experimentation
                        Proof
                        Identification
                        Formulation of principles
                Measurement science
                        Mathematics

        
.........

There is more.

Not to minimize the role of philosophy in science.

I'll stay with the items that I've mention for my science, and you can
keep your timer clocks and space-coordinate system.

Ralph hertle

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